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NBBD no longer supported by Charbroil
The New Braunfels Black Diamond isn't supported by Charbroil anymore.
Anyone own one of these and is willing to measure the actual cooking grids? I am given to understand there are two sets of cooking grids. Looks like it's welding time. Grant Erwin Kirkland, Washington -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:46:01 -0800, Grant Erwin wrote: > >> The New Braunfels Black Diamond isn't supported by Charbroil anymore. > > The NBBD is full of vulnerabilities. You have to upgrade to > Charbroil XP or Charbroil Vista. > > -sw I would recommend strongly staying away from Charbroil Vista. Lot's of problems dealing with legacy meats. -- Dave T. "Many people die at twenty-five and aren't buried until they are seventy-five". Benjamin Franklin |
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Dave T. wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote: >> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:46:01 -0800, Grant Erwin wrote: >> >>> The New Braunfels Black Diamond isn't supported by Charbroil anymore. >> >> The NBBD is full of vulnerabilities. You have to upgrade to >> Charbroil XP or Charbroil Vista. >> >> -sw > > I would recommend strongly staying away from Charbroil Vista. Lot's of > problems dealing with legacy meats. > Not only that, but you will need to use the new Kingsford Nuclear Lump to power it. |
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NBBD no longer supported by Charbroil
Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> "Grant Erwin" > wrote in message > .. . > >>The New Braunfels Black Diamond isn't supported by Charbroil anymore. >> >>Anyone own one of these and is willing to measure the actual cooking > > grids? > >>I am given to understand there are two sets of cooking grids. > > > Here ya go. > > Large Racks 15 1/4" X 16" > Small Racks 10 7/16" X 14 5/16" > > MartyB in KC > Thanks, Marty! Owe ya one .. Grant -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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NBBD no longer supported by Charbroil
On 22-Jan-2008, Grant Erwin > wrote: > The New Braunfels Black Diamond isn't supported by Charbroil anymore. > > Anyone own one of these and is willing to measure the actual cooking > grids? > I am given to understand there are two sets of cooking grids. > > Looks like it's welding time. > > Grant Erwin > Kirkland, Washington I think (thought) that Dana has one. He clued me in initially on how to adapt the minion method to my offset. I'm not sure that he's cooking on it anymore, but maybe he still has it holding up his garage or some- thing. -- Brick(Youth is wasted on young people) |
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On 22-Jan-2008, "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote: > "Sqwertz" > wrote in message > ... > > On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:46:01 -0800, Grant Erwin wrote: > > > > > The New Braunfels Black Diamond isn't supported by Charbroil anymore. > > > > The NBBD is full of vulnerabilities. You have to upgrade to > > Charbroil XP or Charbroil Vista. > > That would be Char Broil's fault. When the NBBDs were built by the > original > company in New Braunfels TX they were pretty sturdy, and even though the > NBBD had its flaws, it was well built enough to be worth tweaking. My old > one is made out of steel that would make a truck frame jealous. The new > ones > are made from such thin steel they feel like you could twist the whole > cylinder body out of shape with your bare hands. Personally I don't like > doing business with big corporations who buy up decent businesses run by > home town folks just to raid their assets, screw up people's jobs, and > cheapen and eventually trash the company's products. In other words, screw > CharBroil. There are many better cookers in their price ranges made by > decent companies. Just my $2.22. > > MartyB in KC What MartyB said. I have a five year old NB Silver from the original company in New Braunfels, TX. The presumably similar smoker produced by Charbroil today is a joke compared to mine. And that's not to say that mine is/was an expensive smoker. I bought it new for about $175 in may of 2003. I've overheated it on a few occasions and managed to burn most of the powder coat off of the firebox, but I'll get around to blasting that down to the metal one of these days and recoat it or repaint it. All of the doors fit well. I can't see daylight through any of them when they're closed. When I shut it down the fire goes out right away. It doesn't leak enough to sustain any kind of combustion. It isn't a Tejas or a Klose, but it's mine and it's paid for and it works very well. -- Brick(Youth is wasted on young people) |
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On Jan 22, 7:59*pm, "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote:
>Personally I don't like > doing business with big corporations who buy up decent businesses run by > home town folks just to raid their assets, screw up people's jobs, and > cheapen and eventually trash the company's products. In other words, screw > CharBroil. There are many better cookers in their price ranges made by > decent companies. Just my $2.22. Fear not, Marty. I have it on good authority that the guys (two brothers) that started the NB pit company have their next endeavor underway. In 1997, NB Smokers sold out, and of course had a priviso that the no longer manufacture pits, in this case for ten years. The company was sold to Charbroil about five years after that. Their 90,000 ft manufacturing facility was packed up and moved out of state at that time, but the non compete clause was still in effect. EVERYONE around here had a NB product at one time since it was literally made 30 minutes from my house. You could drive by the highway on the way to different river/park/fishing/boating/hiking destinations and the smokers would be lined up on the highway side of the plant to catch your eye. You could buy one right off the lot if you wanted. When they closed it was ugly. People around here were ****ed as they had heard the "nothing will change" song and dance when they were purchased in '97. They made nice equipment, and it was affordable, too. I guess at least the original purchasers kept their word. But with the loss of jobs, the closing of the plant, and the loss of a great tradition in affordable bbcue equipment, it really left a sour taste in the mouth of folks around here. The Black Diamonds and some of their custom products that didn't go to the stores were pretty common. So common I didn't get one... sheesh. You could get them used all over the place, and it was well known that you could drive up there and get one that was whacked by a forklift, knocked over and had a bent leg, etc., for a great price. Now NO ONE sells them around here. They are considered "gold" and simply never come up for sale. I had a barrel pit that I bought from them that lasted almost 16 years of really hard use. It closed like a vault, only leaked a fair amount of air, but was sturdy enough to burn about 300 lbs of fuel a year. (It actually used a fair amount of fuel... no matter how good it was, in the end it was still just a barrel pit!). It will be interesting to see if the new company takes off and if they concentrate in making custom smokers (like Klose, etc.) or if they want to make a line of affordable quality grills/pits, more along the line of Chargriller. My contact on this actually works at a barbecue store and they sell mostly propane cookers. He got the buzz on this because apparently the boys in NB were making a few inquiries as to interest and it got everyone around here excited. I will be glad to post any news here if the can get it going. Robert |
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Brick wrote:
> On 22-Jan-2008, Grant Erwin > wrote: > >> The New Braunfels Black Diamond isn't supported by Charbroil anymore. >> >> Anyone own one of these and is willing to measure the actual cooking >> grids? > > I think (thought) that Dana has one. He clued me in initially on how to > adapt the minion method to my offset. I'm not sure that he's cooking > on it anymore, but maybe he still has it holding up his garage or some- > thing. I do still have a Silver Smoker, though it's not in regular use since I set up a WSM with a DigiQ. It sounds like Grant got his measurements already, though - if not, I can go measure mine. Cheers, Dana |
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>> I think (thought) that Dana has one. He clued me in initially on how to >> adapt the minion method to my offset. I'm not sure that he's cooking >> on it anymore, but maybe he still has it holding up his garage or some- >> thing. > > > I do still have a Silver Smoker, though it's not in regular use since > I set up a WSM with a DigiQ. It sounds like Grant got his measurements > already, though - if not, I can go measure mine. > > Cheers, > Dana I did, thanks. Gotta ask - remember, I'm new here - what's a DigiQ? Grant -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Grant Erwin wrote:
> Gotta ask - remember, I'm new here - what's a DigiQ? http://tinyurl.com/2amsqr -- Dave www.davebbq.com |
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Grant Erwin wrote:
>> I do still have a Silver Smoker, though it's not in regular use since >> I set up a WSM with a DigiQ. It sounds like Grant got his measurements >> already, though - if not, I can go measure mine. >> >> Cheers, >> Dana > > I did, thanks. Gotta ask - remember, I'm new here - what's a DigiQ? DigiQ is basically a thermostat for a smoker. Dave kindly sent a link in another note, but, to summarize, the DigiQ is a little fan that forces a draft into a cooker when the temperature is too low. You basically load your cooker with fuel, perhaps a lot for a long cook, and use a propane torch to get one piece of fuel going. The DigiQ takes over and you can basically ignore the cooker until the food is done. The WSM is already very easy to manage, this just makes it an oven. Some might say this is cheating, but the novelty does not wear off. A WSM with sand in the water pan, loaded with two chimney-loads of Original Charcoal Co. Rancher lump briquettes will go for at least 12 hours at 250F this way, rock steady. It makes doing overnight cooks pretty easy/reliable. Dana |
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On 23-Jan-2008, " > wrote: > X-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:40:16 EST (nwrddc02.gnilink.net) > > > > On Jan 22, 7:59*pm, "Nunya Bidnits" > wrote: > > >Personally I don't like > > doing business with big corporations who buy up decent businesses run by > > home town folks just to raid their assets, screw up people's jobs, and > > cheapen and eventually trash the company's products. In other words, > > screw > > CharBroil. There are many better cookers in their price ranges made by > > decent companies. Just my $2.22. > > Fear not, Marty. I have it on good authority that the guys (two > brothers) that started the NB pit company have their next endeavor > underway. <major snippage> > > I will be glad to post any news here if the can get it going. > > Robert Thanks for the heads up Robert. I sure hope they go back to doing something like they were doing before. Tejas a Klose can provide the next higher line of pits. But none of the stores around here have anything to equal the old line of NB pits. The only thing I see is a Chargriller (I think) that you can get a firebox for and turn it into an offset. They look okay, but not as good as my NB Silver or a Black Diamond. Now, I need to get my sandblaster out and get my NBS cleaned up. -- Brick(Youth is wasted on young people) |
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On 23-Jan-2008, Dana Myers > wrote: > Brick wrote: > > On 22-Jan-2008, Grant Erwin > wrote: > > > >> The New Braunfels Black Diamond isn't supported by Charbroil anymore. > >> > >> Anyone own one of these and is willing to measure the actual cooking > >> grids? > > > > > I think (thought) that Dana has one. He clued me in initially on how to > > adapt the minion method to my offset. I'm not sure that he's cooking > > on it anymore, but maybe he still has it holding up his garage or some- > > thing. > > I do still have a Silver Smoker, though it's not in regular use since > I set up a WSM with a DigiQ. It sounds like Grant got his measurements > already, though - if not, I can go measure mine. > > Cheers, > Dana My bad. I though you had a Black Diamond Dana. I also have a Silver Smoker. Methinks the grates are different sizes then the Black Diamond. The BD is nearly twice as large as the Silver. -- Brick(Youth is wasted on young people) |
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"Brick" > wrote in message news:0Fxlj.15059$k15.7566@trnddc06... > > On 22-Jan-2008, Grant Erwin > wrote: > > > The New Braunfels Black Diamond isn't supported by Charbroil anymore. > > > > Anyone own one of these and is willing to measure the actual cooking > > grids? > > I am given to understand there are two sets of cooking grids. > > > > Looks like it's welding time. > > > > Grant Erwin > > Kirkland, Washington > > I think (thought) that Dana has one. He clued me in initially on how to > adapt the minion method to my offset. I'm not sure that he's cooking > on it anymore, but maybe he still has it holding up his garage or some- > thing. > > -- > Brick(Youth is wasted on young people) I have a NBBD and a Grill Dome ceramic. I use the NBBD for ribs(because they taste better) and the dome for everything else. Both sit out in the weather. The NBBD doesn't have any paint left on it and it's frame is sitting on 2x4s because of rotted legs, but it's a thing of beauty when ribs are involved. |
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