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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=260172730257

Starting price == $0.01

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On Oct 19, 11:14 am, SFTV_troy > wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=260172730257
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> Starting price == $0.01


Yes, this is spam, folks, but the real question is, what wine goes
with this popcorn? Buttery, oaky chardonnay?

Dan-O (getting on-topic)

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i just want some fried chicken

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On Oct 19, 12:42 pm, SN > wrote:
> i just want some fried chicken


Have you tried Ebay?

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On Oct 19, 11:20 am, Dan the Man > wrote:
> On Oct 19, 11:14 am, SFTV_troy > wrote:
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> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=260172730257

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> > Starting price == $0.01

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> Yes, this is spam, folks, but the real question is, what wine goes
> with this popcorn? Buttery, oaky chardonnay?
>
> Dan-O (getting on-topic)


Dan-O, what elese with popcorn but BEER!
Or a nice buttery dragonwell!
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"SFTV_troy" > wrote in message
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> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=260172730257
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> Starting price == $0.01
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DID YOU NOTICE THE SHIPPING COSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

US $24.88

Also, a 97.6% happy buyer ratio is very low for EBAY;
Avoid, Avoid, Avoid




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Kent wrote:
> "SFTV_troy" > wrote ...
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=260172730257
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>> Starting price == $0.01
>>

> DID YOU NOTICE THE SHIPPING COSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> US $24.88
>
> Also, a 97.6% happy buyer ratio is very low for EBAY;
> Avoid, Avoid, Avoid


The happy buyer ratio is mostly bull anyway. What counts is how long
the have been selling or buying.
http://www.techweb.com/article/showA...1600603&pgno=1

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> DID YOU NOTICE THE SHIPPING COSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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> US $24.88
>
> Also, a 97.6% happy buyer ratio is very low for EBAY;
> Avoid, Avoid, Avoid


It's not so very low when you have over 500 transactions, but I agree that
nearly $25 doesn't strike me as what parcel post would cost, not everywhere
in the lower 48. (According to <http://www.usps.com/rates/parcel-post-
rates.htm> it goes by distance & weight.)

But he's really stretching it in the description, for example when he says
the item is "BRAND NEW. Never used." Can you imagine anyone paying for used
popcorn? :-))

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"DougW" > wrote in message
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> Kent wrote:
>> "SFTV_troy" > wrote ...
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=260172730257
>>>
>>> Starting price == $0.01
>>>

>> DID YOU NOTICE THE SHIPPING COSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> US $24.88
>>
>> Also, a 97.6% happy buyer ratio is very low for EBAY;
>> Avoid, Avoid, Avoid

>
> The happy buyer ratio is mostly bull anyway. What counts is how long
> the have been selling or buying.
> http://www.techweb.com/article/showA...1600603&pgno=1


Selling cheap and increasing the shipping costs is a way to get around ebay
fees since they are charged on the goods, not shipping. Check the total
cost to see if it is a good deal.


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Ozzy wrote:
> "Kent" > wrote in
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>
>> DID YOU NOTICE THE SHIPPING COSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> US $24.88
>>
>> Also, a 97.6% happy buyer ratio is very low for EBAY;
>> Avoid, Avoid, Avoid
>>

>
> It's not so very low when you have over 500 transactions, but I agree that
> nearly $25 doesn't strike me as what parcel post would cost, not everywhere
> in the lower 48. (According to <http://www.usps.com/rates/parcel-post-
> rates.htm> it goes by distance & weight.)
>

I would encourage anyone to avoid buying from this spammer. Or any spammer.

However, a quick discussion about pricing might be in order. PayPal
charges the vendor a percentage of the sales price, but not of the
shipping. So some vendors put low prices on stuff with a "buy it now"
option and really high shipping. Of course it doesn't cost $25 to ship
the popcorn. Of course the popcorn is worth more than a penny.

As a buyer, look at the total of the sale price and shipping and decide
if that is a reasonable total. eBay has recently changed the sort
options on their displays so you can sort by the price + shipping costs,
which makes comparisons easier.

Personally, I think that this approach - low price with high shipping
costs - is unfair to PayPal and I don't buy from sellers who do that.
As a seller, I don't do that either. It's just not right! If you don't
like PayPal, don't use them. If you use them, you should pay them
fairly for their services.

Mike




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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "DougW" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Kent wrote:
>>> "SFTV_troy" > wrote ...
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=260172730257
>>>>
>>>> Starting price == $0.01
>>>>
>>> DID YOU NOTICE THE SHIPPING COSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> US $24.88
>>>
>>> Also, a 97.6% happy buyer ratio is very low for EBAY;
>>> Avoid, Avoid, Avoid

>>
>> The happy buyer ratio is mostly bull anyway. What counts is how long
>> the have been selling or buying.
>> http://www.techweb.com/article/showA...1600603&pgno=1

>
> Selling cheap and increasing the shipping costs is a way to get
> around ebay fees since they are charged on the goods, not shipping. Check
> the total cost to see if it is a good deal.


Ebay has a mechanism in place to report sellers who appear to be
over-charging on shipping. Ebay initiated rules about 6 months ago to try
and solve that issue.
--
Dave
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> Personally, I think that this approach - low price with high shipping
> costs - is unfair to PayPal


Well, IMHO their fees are pretty high, and they are raking in billions for
little more than running a big website. And they own Paypal too, who takes a
nice chunk of each sale as well...if you accept credit cards.

So I feel nothing for Ebay as far as losing a few bucks here and there.
But, I sell my stuff for actual shipping on principle.

-John O


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> Well, IMHO their fees are pretty high, and they are raking in billions for
> little more than running a big website.


All they do is run a web site?

FYI,.they employ 13,200 people. That is a lot of families living the good
life with food and housing because they have a job with a profitable
company. Their stock is publicly traded so you can buy a piece of the
action and make money too.

Jump on and get rich too http://investor.ebay.com/faq.cfm



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> "JohnO" > wrote in message
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>> Well, IMHO their fees are pretty high, and they are raking in billions
>> for little more than running a big website.

>
> All they do is run a web site?
>
> FYI,.they employ 13,200 people.


Seriously? Dang, considering they don't have a phone number, that's pretty
big. Well, I have to go start another sale...got a pile of old Heathkit
crap...uhhhh, I mean classic electronics gear... to unload.

-John O


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JohnO wrote:

> Seriously? Dang, considering they don't have a phone number, that's
> pretty big. Well, I have to go start another sale...got a pile of old
> Heathkit crap...uhhhh, I mean classic electronics gear... to unload.


Heh.. Got an old heathkit O-scope in the attic. It still works
but last time I adjusted the sweep voltage it jumped up and bit me.

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> "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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>> "JohnO" > wrote in message
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>>> Well, IMHO their fees are pretty high, and they are raking in billions
>>> for little more than running a big website.

>>
>> All they do is run a web site?
>>
>> FYI,.they employ 13,200 people.

>
> Seriously? Dang, considering they don't have a phone number, that's pretty
> big. Well, I have to go start another sale...got a pile of old Heathkit
> crap...uhhhh, I mean classic electronics gear... to unload.
>
> -John O



Yep. http://investor.ebay.com/faq.cfm

You can call if you want to invest
For general investor information, or to request printed materials, please
call our toll-free investor line: 1-866-696-eBay (3229)

Other info
eBay Headquarters:

eBay Inc.
2145 Hamilton Avenue
San Jose, California 95125

PayPal Headquarters:

eBay Park North
2211 North First Street
San Jose, CA 95131


When someone says "all they do is run a web site" it irritates me. Sure,
they are in business to make money, but they also have a lot of costs, a
huge payroll, rent, taxes, employee benefits, utility bills, etc. This
certainly is not run by a kid with a computer in the bedroom.

Same with most businesses. Where I work I often take visitors into the
plant and warehouse. They see our inventory and make comments like "wow,
you guys must make a lot of money". I ask them what they think our gas and
electric bills are. They guess that electric is $500 and gas is maybe
$1000. In reality, electric is $20,000 and gas is $25000 in summer, $30,000
in winter.


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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> Same with most businesses. Where I work I often take visitors into the
> plant and warehouse. They see our inventory and make comments like "wow,
> you guys must make a lot of money".


Businesses that don't make money don't last. It's simple
economic physics.

> I ask them what they think our gas and
> electric bills are. They guess that electric is $500 and gas is maybe
> $1000. In reality, electric is $20,000 and gas is $25000 in summer, $30,000


.... and there's the harsh side of running a business that's also
part of simple economic physics.

Every time I hear someone gripe about businesses making money, I
just have to bite my lip rather than waste my time trying to explain
the simplest, most obvious economics (that they seem to fail to teach
us in grade school).

The USSR tried socialism for decades. They went out of business.
It is just economic physics, little different than the law of gravity.
The only problem is that the consequences differ.

Dana
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:43:20 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" >
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>"JohnO" > wrote in message
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>>
>> "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "JohnO" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> Well, IMHO their fees are pretty high, and they are raking in billions
>>>> for little more than running a big website.
>>>
>>> All they do is run a web site?
>>>
>>> FYI,.they employ 13,200 people.

>>
>> Seriously? Dang, considering they don't have a phone number,
>> -John O

>
>
>Yep. http://investor.ebay.com/faq.cfm
>
>You can call if you want to invest
>For general investor information, or to request printed material
>
>When someone says "all they do is run a web site" it irritates me. Sure,
>they are in business to make money, but they also have a lot of costs, a
>huge payroll, rent, taxes, employee benefits, utility bills, etc. This
>certainly is not run by a kid with a computer in the bedroom.
>
>Same with most businesses. Where I work I often take visitors into the
>plant and warehouse. They see our inventory and make comments like "wow,
>you guys must make a lot of money". I ask them what they think our gas and
>electric bills are. They guess that electric is $500 and gas is maybe
>$1000. In reality, electric is $20,000 and gas is $25000 in summer, $30,000
>in winter.
>

I gather you have got yourselves up and running OK now, Ed?

BTW, how much is that in 'real money'? ;o)
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> I gather you have got yourselves up and running OK now, Ed?
>
> BTW, how much is that in 'real money'? ;o)


Not yet, probably late December. Cost will be over $2,000,000


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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:14:54 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski" >
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>"Harry Demidavicius" > wrote in message
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>> I gather you have got yourselves up and running OK now, Ed?
>>
>> BTW, how much is that in 'real money'? ;o)

>
>Not yet, probably late December. Cost will be over $2,000,000
>

I hope you have 'loss of profits ' coverage [don't answer that, eh - I
expect you do - but it must be getting pretty lame by now], Ed.

Harry
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