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Rick Blaine 13-10-2007 07:06 PM

Propane Grill Infrared Burner Question
 
I bought a Charbroil grill from Lowes a few months ago. It has 3 main burners, a
side burner, a ceramic rotisserie burner and a ceramic infrared searing burner.
The thre main burners work great as does the side burner.

However, for the life of me I can't get the two ceramic burners to work. Using
the spark lighter or a grill lighter, I can occasionally see a small wave of
blue flame moving across the burner plate, but it doesn't take. Yes - know those
types of burners aren't supposed to have a visible flame. There's no burning
going on at all - no heat.

I've checked the jets and there's definitely gas coming out of the valve.
There's no adjustible air valve as far as I can see. Any ideas as to what I can
try?

>Are you saying that blue flame goes out? The way these things work is the
>blue flame heats the ceramic and the ceramic radiates the infrared. It
>takes a few minutes to start feeling the heat from the infra red, but the
>flame should be thee all the time.
>


Yep - the blue flame rolls across the ceramic plate but immedately goes out.

>You may also want to ask this on alt.food.barbecue


Good Idea!

>Just ignore the replies
>that will tell you to scrap the gas and get charcoal.


:)

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Nonnymus[_5_] 13-10-2007 07:13 PM

Propane Grill Infrared Burner Question
 
Rick Blaine wrote:

> Yep - the blue flame rolls across the ceramic plate but immedately goes out.
>
>> You may also want to ask this on alt.food.barbecue

>
> Good Idea!
>
>> Just ignore the replies
>> that will tell you to scrap the gas and get charcoal.


Have you checked for spider webs in the air intake area, around the jet?

Nonny

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Rick Blaine 14-10-2007 02:11 AM

Propane Grill Infrared Burner Question
 
Nonnymus > wrote:

>
>Have you checked for spider webs in the air intake area, around the jet?


Yep... Ran my finger across the jet and felt the gas coming out.

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Nonnymus[_5_] 14-10-2007 03:55 AM

Propane Grill Infrared Burner Question
 
Rick Blaine wrote:
> Nonnymus > wrote:
>
>> Have you checked for spider webs in the air intake area, around the jet?

>
> Yep... Ran my finger across the jet and felt the gas coming out.
>


No, it would be the big tube that the jet is shooting the gas into.
Spiders somehow love the smell of the gas or odorant, and tend to build
webs there. Use a test tube brush or bottle brush and clean out the big
tube.

Nonny
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---Nonnymus---
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the person you are talking with will
have a close friend with a larger one.
---Observation by my son

Rick Blaine 14-10-2007 04:20 AM

Propane Grill Infrared Burner Question
 
Nonnymus > wrote:

>
>No, it would be the big tube that the jet is shooting the gas into.
>Spiders somehow love the smell of the gas or odorant, and tend to build
>webs there. Use a test tube brush or bottle brush and clean out the big
>tube.


Thanks, but the infrared burners don't have those kind of tubes. The jet sprays
into a large pan like structure and the gas percolates up through the ceramic
plate. In any case, as unboxed the grill and the burners never worked, I think
the problem lies elsewhere.

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Nick Cramer 14-10-2007 05:04 AM

Propane Grill Infrared Burner Question
 
Rick Blaine > wrote:
> Nonnymus > wrote:
>
> >Have you checked for spider webs in the air intake area, around the jet?

>
> Yep... Ran my finger across the jet and felt the gas coming out.


Also, he said the flame was blue. If the air intake was blocked, the flame
would be yellow, eh.

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[email protected][_2_] 14-10-2007 05:48 AM

Propane Grill Infrared Burner Question
 

On 13-Oct-2007, Rick Blaine > wrote:

> Nonnymus > wrote:
>
> >
> >No, it would be the big tube that the jet is shooting the gas into.
> >Spiders somehow love the smell of the gas or odorant, and tend to build
> >webs there. Use a test tube brush or bottle brush and clean out the big
> >tube.

>
> Thanks, but the infrared burners don't have those kind of tubes. The jet
> sprays
> into a large pan like structure and the gas percolates up through the
> ceramic
> plate. In any case, as unboxed the grill and the burners never worked, I
> think
> the problem lies elsewhere.
>
> --
> "Tell me what I should do, Annie."


Fire requires just three ingredients; fuel, air and an ignition source. As
you
have already stated you have start-up fuel, air and and ignition source. You
just don't have sustaining fuel.
--
Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)

[email protected] 14-10-2007 02:54 PM

Propane Grill Infrared Burner Question
 
On Oct 14, 12:48?am, "
> wrote:
> On 13-Oct-2007, Rick Blaine > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Nonnymus > wrote:

>
> > >No, it would be the big tube that the jet is shooting the gas into.
> > >Spiders somehow love the smell of the gas or odorant, and tend to build
> > >webs there. Use a test tube brush or bottle brush and clean out the big
> > >tube.

>
> > Thanks, but the infrared burners don't have those kind of tubes. The jet
> > sprays
> > into a large pan like structure and the gas percolates up through the
> > ceramic
> > plate. In any case, as unboxed the grill and the burners never worked, I
> > think
> > the problem lies elsewhere.

>
> > --
> > "Tell me what I should do, Annie."

>
> Fire requires just three ingredients; fuel, air and an ignition source. As
> you
> have already stated you have start-up fuel, air and and ignition source. You
> just don't have sustaining fuel.
> --
> Brick(Youth is wasted on young people)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I blow compressed air thru my grill burners occasionaly, to clean
them.

just last week right burner refused to stay lit.

compressor blew out a good bit of white dusty substance no doubt a
spiderweb.


Rick Blaine 14-10-2007 03:15 PM

Propane Grill Infrared Burner Question
 
" > wrote:

>You just don't have sustaining fuel.


Makes sense. Now I just need to figure out _why_. And what to adjust.

--
"Tell me what I should do, Annie."
"Stay. Here. Forever." - Life On Mars

Nonnymus[_5_] 14-10-2007 04:44 PM

Propane Grill Infrared Burner Question
 
wrote:
> On 13-Oct-2007, Rick Blaine > wrote:
>
>> Nonnymus > wrote:
>>
>>> No, it would be the big tube that the jet is shooting the gas into.
>>> Spiders somehow love the smell of the gas or odorant, and tend to build
>>> webs there. Use a test tube brush or bottle brush and clean out the big
>>> tube.

>> Thanks, but the infrared burners don't have those kind of tubes. The jet
>> sprays
>> into a large pan like structure and the gas percolates up through the
>> ceramic
>> plate. In any case, as unboxed the grill and the burners never worked, I
>> think
>> the problem lies elsewhere.
>>
>> --
>> "Tell me what I should do, Annie."

>
> Fire requires just three ingredients; fuel, air and an ignition source. As
> you
> have already stated you have start-up fuel, air and and ignition source. You
> just don't have sustaining fuel.


The ones he has must be different than mine. If it was broken out of
the box, I'm probably doubly wrong and not just singly wrong.

--
---Nonnymus---
No matter how large your boat,
the person you are talking with will
have a close friend with a larger one.
---Observation by my son

Shawn 14-10-2007 06:14 PM

Propane Grill Infrared Burner Question
 
Nonnymus wrote:
> wrote:
>> On 13-Oct-2007, Rick Blaine > wrote:
>>
>>> Nonnymus > wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, it would be the big tube that the jet is shooting the gas into.
>>>> Spiders somehow love the smell of the gas or odorant, and tend to build
>>>> webs there. Use a test tube brush or bottle brush and clean out the
>>>> big
>>>> tube.
>>> Thanks, but the infrared burners don't have those kind of tubes. The jet
>>> sprays
>>> into a large pan like structure and the gas percolates up through the
>>> ceramic
>>> plate. In any case, as unboxed the grill and the burners never worked, I
>>> think
>>> the problem lies elsewhere.
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Tell me what I should do, Annie."

>>
>> Fire requires just three ingredients; fuel, air and an ignition
>> source. As
>> you
>> have already stated you have start-up fuel, air and and ignition
>> source. You
>> just don't have sustaining fuel.

>
> The ones he has must be different than mine. If it was broken out of
> the box, I'm probably doubly wrong and not just singly wrong.
>

Take it back to the store.


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