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Making a real BBQ rig
OK, who's got the best homemade BBQ cooker and how dew yew make one?
Guv Bob |
Making a real BBQ rig
Oh, you mean the kind that sits on a flat-bed trailer and costs
somewhere between ten and fifteen thousand dollars? Yeah, wish I had one of those too. For most of us the problem is not finding a manufacturer but coming up with that kinda money :) low-n-slow |
Making a real BBQ rig
Guv Bob wrote: OK, who's got the best homemade BBQ cooker and how dew yew make one? Guv Bob Hey bob here's a link on how to make your own trash can smoker: http://www.cruftbox.com/cruft/docs/elecsmoker.html To be honest with you though; for the same price you can just by an entry-level smoker: http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...0-K&lpage=none I wanted to make my own as well but when I realized it was cheaper to just buy the electric smoker that had everything I wanted in it anyways; that's what i did. Either way, happy smoking! |
Making a real BBQ rig
low-n-slow wrote:
Oh, you mean the kind that sits on a flat-bed trailer and costs somewhere between ten and fifteen thousand dollars? low-n-slow I'm not sure if it has to be the semi truck variety to count, but if you're after results and not just the art of low and slow, the boys in Pennsylvania can help you. http://www.pitminder.com/ My guess is that their equipment can be scaled up to commercial size with no effort. I don't pretend to have the skill of the commercial folk who post here, or even the more dedicated folk. However, as I've gotten older, I just don't get as much of a kick tending the smoker as I did years back. Nowadays, the fun for me is the results more than saying I did it all. The Pit Minder variation on their web site simply uses outside air to moderate the hood temperature during a smoke and to further adjust the hood temperature lower as the meat reaches the desired temperature. For the charcoal/coal/wood or even gas folks, that's done using a fan whose volume is controlled by a computer, for better want of a word. When you cut to the chase, the barbecue we all love is a product of the marinade, rub, mop and sauce, combined with the smoke and cooking temperature profile. It's the last item that can go from being fun to a pain in the rump with age and arthritis.grin The skilled barbecuer, either commercial or recreational, adjusts the fire level to get the hood temperature he thinks is appropriate for the meat. Rather than manually adjust a damper or run a thermostat up and down, why not lay it all out on paper and let a computer do it for you while you sit back and have a drink? When I used to do construction, I used a 22oz Estwing to drive 16d box nails. Later, I got the same results with a Paslode pneumatic nailer. I also used an electric planer to join wood instead of a 16" joining plane, spray finish rather than brush, use a Lawn Boy for the yard instead of a push mower and have a TIMER to sprinkle the lawn instead of using a garden hose. Sure, I could go around in the evening and cut on my porch and yard lights at switches, but I prefer to use X-10 controls to do it for me. . . and also cut them off. I don't feel that we lose a thing by increasingly automating cooking, including our venerated barbecue. I love it as much as the next man, but don't think I give up a thing when I let a silicone chip control some of the factors I've done over the course of an evening, afternoon or even nighttime, in the past. It's still ME setting the parameters- the question is whether it's me manually making the adjustments or something doing it for me while I nap or have a martini. -- ---Nonnymus--- You don’t stand any taller by trying to make others appear shorter. |
Making a real BBQ rig
I wanted to make my own as well but when I realized it was cheaper to just buy the electric smoker that had everything I wanted in it anyways; that's what i did. An electric smoker? Egads, what will they think of next? I guess those electrons give everything a nice electric flavor. You call that barbeque or smoking? Not me. Bob-tx |
Making a real BBQ rig
My Dad.
When I was a kid (c. late 1950's early 1960's), my Dad made a smoker out of an old refrigerator. At that time, refrigerators were made of steel w/ porcelin coatings. He took the compressor and motor and other stuff out of the bottom comparment, and rigged a firebox in it. He drilled holes in the floor of the icebox, and rigged a vent on top, complete with a butterfly valve to control heat. He used the metal racks that came with the refrigerator. Then, he'd go deep sea fishing, and catch albacore, yellowtail, bonita,salmon, etc., make me clean them and bury the guts, brine it all, and smoke them for a day or two. Good eats. -Zz On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:00:01 GMT, "Guv Bob" wrote: OK, who's got the best homemade BBQ cooker and how dew yew make one? Guv Bob |
Making a real BBQ rig
Just the home backyard type.... big enough for 4 people is fine.
"Nonnymus" wrote in message ... low-n-slow wrote: Oh, you mean the kind that sits on a flat-bed trailer and costs somewhere between ten and fifteen thousand dollars? low-n-slow I'm not sure if it has to be the semi truck variety to count, but if you're after results and not just the art of low and slow, the boys in Pennsylvania can help you. http://www.pitminder.com/ My guess is that their equipment can be scaled up to commercial size with no effort. I don't pretend to have the skill of the commercial folk who post here, or even the more dedicated folk. However, as I've gotten older, I just don't get as much of a kick tending the smoker as I did years back. Nowadays, the fun for me is the results more than saying I did it all. The Pit Minder variation on their web site simply uses outside air to moderate the hood temperature during a smoke and to further adjust the hood temperature lower as the meat reaches the desired temperature. For the charcoal/coal/wood or even gas folks, that's done using a fan whose volume is controlled by a computer, for better want of a word. When you cut to the chase, the barbecue we all love is a product of the marinade, rub, mop and sauce, combined with the smoke and cooking temperature profile. It's the last item that can go from being fun to a pain in the rump with age and arthritis.grin The skilled barbecuer, either commercial or recreational, adjusts the fire level to get the hood temperature he thinks is appropriate for the meat. Rather than manually adjust a damper or run a thermostat up and down, why not lay it all out on paper and let a computer do it for you while you sit back and have a drink? When I used to do construction, I used a 22oz Estwing to drive 16d box nails. Later, I got the same results with a Paslode pneumatic nailer. I also used an electric planer to join wood instead of a 16" joining plane, spray finish rather than brush, use a Lawn Boy for the yard instead of a push mower and have a TIMER to sprinkle the lawn instead of using a garden hose. Sure, I could go around in the evening and cut on my porch and yard lights at switches, but I prefer to use X-10 controls to do it for me. . . and also cut them off. I don't feel that we lose a thing by increasingly automating cooking, including our venerated barbecue. I love it as much as the next man, but don't think I give up a thing when I let a silicone chip control some of the factors I've done over the course of an evening, afternoon or even nighttime, in the past. It's still ME setting the parameters- the question is whether it's me manually making the adjustments or something doing it for me while I nap or have a martini. -- ---Nonnymus--- You don’t stand any taller by trying to make others appear shorter. |
Making a real BBQ rig
Zz Yzx wrote:
My Dad. When I was a kid (c. late 1950's early 1960's), my Dad made a smoker out of an old refrigerator. At that time, refrigerators were made of steel w/ porcelin coatings. He took the compressor and motor and other stuff out of the bottom comparment, and rigged a firebox in it. He drilled holes in the floor of the icebox, and rigged a vent on top, complete with a butterfly valve to control heat. He used the metal racks that came with the refrigerator. Then, he'd go deep sea fishing, and catch albacore, yellowtail, bonita,salmon, etc., make me clean them and bury the guts, brine it all, and smoke them for a day or two. As a FWIW, Bradley's smoker consists of two main parts. One is the dorm room refrigerator-sized smoker box, and the other is the smoke generator, which holds and feeds the pucks onto a hotplate. The smoke generator merely slides into a hole in the side of the box, hanging off of two mounting screws. The biscuits are fed one at a time onto the hot plate by a "pusher," that slides the old one onto the plate, forcing the used one to drop into a small pan of water. Bradley sells the smoke generator separately for someone like your Dad who wants to use a refrigerator, old barbecue grill or anything else for smoking food. It's the same generator and hot plate as sold with their smoker, except that the hot plate has a small, removable, cover that sits over the puck in case your own design might permit something to drip onto the puck. Nonny -- ---Nonnymus--- You don’t stand any taller by trying to make others appear shorter. |
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Guv Bob wrote:
Just the home backyard type.... big enough for 4 people is fine. Look at the new thread about the fellow whose dad used an old refrigerator as a smoker. Perhaps if you coupled that with my reply to him you could have some fun. Nonny -- ---Nonnymus--- You don’t stand any taller by trying to make others appear shorter. -- ---Nonnymus--- You don’t stand any taller by trying to make others appear shorter. |
Making a real BBQ rig
mmmmmm MMMMM!!!! This is making me HONGRY!! :OD
Some of the folks at work talk about what a "real" bbq is. One says that the meat is not cooked over fire or coals, that it's off to the side and has the smoke funnels across it. I never heard that anywhere else - thought BBQ was always done over coals or a wood fire (pronounced far). Guv Bob |
Making a real BBQ rig
Guv Bob wrote:
mmmmmm MMMMM!!!! This is making me HONGRY!! :OD Some of the folks at work talk about what a "real" bbq is. One says that the meat is not cooked over fire or coals, that it's off to the side and has the smoke funnels across it. I never heard that anywhere else - thought BBQ was always done over coals or a wood fire (pronounced far). Guv Bob My neighbor brought over a big container of pulled pork loin that he'd cooked up in his electric oven overnight. My mild criticism of him is that he overcooks meat. Outside of that, the loin was delicious when mixed with KC Masterpiece and eaten on a hot dog bun. I compared it side to side with smoked pulled butt and the butt won hand's down. However, his loin/KC Masterpiece makes a good breakfast sandwich that I've enjoyed for the past three mornings, now. The guy also likes to do a loin in a crock pot, and the result is edible, also. We all have our favorite and less favorite foods. I sure as heck never turn down the good food he brings over, but then he doesn't turn down mine, either. grin Nonny -- ---Nonnymus--- You don’t stand any taller by trying to make others appear shorter. |
Making a real BBQ rig
"Guv Bob" wrote in message news:[email protected] mmmmmm MMMMM!!!! This is making me HONGRY!! :OD Some of the folks at work talk about what a "real" bbq is. One says that the meat is not cooked over fire or coals, that it's off to the side and has the smoke funnels across it. I never heard that anywhere else - thought BBQ was always done over coals or a wood fire (pronounced far). Guv Bob Texans call that BBQ.The rest of the country mostly don't. That is what I call "smoke cooking". Barbecue is cooked over hardwood coals at a distance of 18" - 24" or more. BTW, my pits smoke cook -- James A. "Big Jim" Whitten www.lazyq.com |
Making a real BBQ rig
"Big Jim" wrote in message ... "Guv Bob" wrote in message news:[email protected] mmmmmm MMMMM!!!! This is making me HONGRY!! :OD Some of the folks at work talk about what a "real" bbq is. One says that the meat is not cooked over fire or coals, that it's off to the side and has the smoke funnels across it. I never heard that anywhere else - thought BBQ was always done over coals or a wood fire (pronounced far). Guv Bob Barbecue has evolved over hundreds of years. Some is cooked direct, others indirect. Texas barbecue changed when the oil rigs came along. Large pieces of pipe were left in the fields and someone decided to make an offset cooker. In direct cookers, the grate for grilling is inches over the coals, but to make barbecue the grate is much higher, maybe 18" or more. Each has good and bad points and you can get into ****ing contests quite easily if you know for a fact that your method is the only true barbecue. -- Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ |
Making a real BBQ rig
Bob wrote: I wanted to make my own as well but when I realized it was cheaper to just buy the electric smoker that had everything I wanted in it anyways; that's what i did. An electric smoker? Egads, what will they think of next? I guess those electrons give everything a nice electric flavor. You call that barbeque or smoking? Not me. Bob-tx Hi Bob sorry im not a dimwitted redneck who can afford to spend 15 hours babysitting a woodsmoker... clearly your self worth is quantified by the amount of time you spend sitting in front of your "real" smoker; a fairly pathetic assertation if you ask me. but who am i to judge? |
Making a real BBQ rig
the warlock society wrote:
Bob wrote: I wanted to make my own as well but when I realized it was cheaper to just buy the electric smoker that had everything I wanted in it anyways; that's what i did. An electric smoker? Egads, what will they think of next? I guess those electrons give everything a nice electric flavor. You call that barbeque or smoking? sorry im not a dimwitted redneck who can afford to spend 15 hours babysitting a woodsmoker... clearly your self worth is quantified by the amount of time you spend sitting in front of your "real" smoker; a fairly pathetic assertation if you ask me. This is what's known as a false dilemma. "Real" barbecue rigs don't require constant attention, at least not charcoal-based ones. A WSM using the Minion Method requires little attention beyond an occasional check to replenish smoke wood in the early going, and the overall temps at intervals. Brian -- If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who won't shut up. -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com) |
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