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Oven finish for a rainy breezy day? WSM
Dudes,
I've never finished a smoke in the oven but have two large shoulders in the WSM. Went in at 6:45AM and need to pull these at 3:00 PM and put in the cooler for a 4:00 feed. Wind was a little snappy this mornin but seems calm now. Thundershowers are forecast all day. Have the cooker under a patio so it will be dry and have shielded most of the cooker from the wind. I'll check temp around 1:00 PM and see where they stand. Can you ballpark what temp and how much time do I need if a finish in the oven is neccessary? The roasts are about 8 - 9 Lb each. Thanks, going back to bed for now...zzz |
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Sonoran Dude wrote:
> Dudes, > I've never finished a smoke in the oven but have two large shoulders in > the WSM. Went in at 6:45AM and need to pull these at 3:00 PM and put in > the cooler for a 4:00 feed. > Wind was a little snappy this mornin but seems calm now. Thundershowers > are forecast all day. Have the cooker under a patio so it will be dry > and have shielded most of the cooker from the wind. > I'll check temp around 1:00 PM and see where they stand. Can you > ballpark what temp and how much time do I need if a finish in the oven > is neccessary? The roasts are about 8 - 9 Lb each. > > Thanks, going back to bed for now...zzz Pork Shoulders that is... Is there any other? |
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Sonoran Dude wrote:
> Dudes, > I've never finished a smoke in the oven but have two large shoulders in > the WSM. Went in at 6:45AM and need to pull these at 3:00 PM and put in > the cooler for a 4:00 feed. > Wind was a little snappy this mornin but seems calm now. Thundershowers > are forecast all day. Have the cooker under a patio so it will be dry > and have shielded most of the cooker from the wind. > I'll check temp around 1:00 PM and see where they stand. Can you > ballpark what temp and how much time do I need if a finish in the oven > is neccessary? The roasts are about 8 - 9 Lb each. > > Thanks, going back to bed for now...zzz By my estimate, you started too late. Shoulders take about 1.5 hours/pound at Q temps (225-275F), which works out to maybe 13.5 hours in your case. So, to finish in the oven, I'd normally run the oven at the same temp I run my cooker, but in your case, you'll probably need more heat, like 325-350F to even have a hope of finishing in time. How'd it go? Dana |
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On 25-Aug-2007, Dana Myers > wrote: > Sonoran Dude wrote: > > Dudes, > > I've never finished a smoke in the oven but have two large shoulders in > > the WSM. Went in at 6:45AM and need to pull these at 3:00 PM and put in > > the cooler for a 4:00 feed. > > Wind was a little snappy this mornin but seems calm now. Thundershowers > > are forecast all day. Have the cooker under a patio so it will be dry > > and have shielded most of the cooker from the wind. > > I'll check temp around 1:00 PM and see where they stand. Can you > > ballpark what temp and how much time do I need if a finish in the oven > > is neccessary? The roasts are about 8 - 9 Lb each. > > > > Thanks, going back to bed for now...zzz > > By my estimate, you started too late. Shoulders take about > 1.5 hours/pound at Q temps (225-275F), which works out to > maybe 13.5 hours in your case. > > So, to finish in the oven, I'd normally run the oven at the > same temp I run my cooker, but in your case, you'll probably > need more heat, like 325-350F to even have a hope of finishing > in time. > > How'd it go? > > Dana According to your math Dana, the butts I cooked friday should have taken nine and one half hours and eight and one half hours respectively. Those sure were some stupid butts. They reached 190° in four and a half hours and were about as tender and juicy as any I've ever cooked. I was a little worried about the briquettes I was using, "Original Charcoal Co. "Rancher" " briquettes. But they worked alright and caused no adverse taste in the pork. I ran out of oak chunks too. I had to use some old hickory chips wrapped in foil to get any smoke at all. -- Brick(Save a tree, eat a Beaver) |
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Brick wrote:
> According to your math Dana, the butts I cooked friday should have > taken nine and one half hours and eight and one half hours respectively. > Those sure were some stupid butts. They reached 190° in four and a > half hours and were about as tender and juicy as any I've ever cooked. What temperature were you cooking them at? > I was a little worried about the briquettes I was using, "Original Charcoal > Co. "Rancher" " briquettes. But they worked alright and caused no > adverse taste in the pork. Rancher briquettes are good stuff. Dana |
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On 26-Aug-2007, Dana Myers > wrote: > Brick wrote: > > > According to your math Dana, the butts I cooked friday should have > > taken nine and one half hours and eight and one half hours respectively. > > Those sure were some stupid butts. They reached 190° in four and a > > half hours and were about as tender and juicy as any I've ever cooked. > > What temperature were you cooking them at? Nominal 270°F where the butts were located > > > I was a little worried about the briquettes I was using, "Original > > Charcoal > > Co. "Rancher" " briquettes. But they worked alright and caused no > > adverse taste in the pork. > > Rancher briquettes are good stuff. I mentioned the briquettes because the initial smoke when I fired them up fairly reeked with "coal" smell. I was careful during the cook to add only a few briquettes at a time to avoid any smoldering. > > Dana -- Brick(Save a tree, eat a Beaver) |
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Brick wrote:
> On 26-Aug-2007, Dana Myers > wrote: >>> I was a little worried about the briquettes I was using, "Original >>> Charcoal >>> Co. "Rancher" " briquettes. But they worked alright and caused no >>> adverse taste in the pork. >> Rancher briquettes are good stuff. > > I mentioned the briquettes because the initial smoke when I fired them > up fairly reeked with "coal" smell. I was careful during the cook to add > only a few briquettes at a time to avoid any smoldering. I've burned through 4 bags of Rancher briquettes and have yet to smell any coal. I *smell* a perfumey sort of hardwood smell, but nothing chemical. It *is* a different smell, though, than North American lump, probably because of the South American hardwood they use. Dana |
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Sonoran Dude wrote:
> > Dudes, > I've never finished a smoke in the oven but have two large shoulders in > the WSM. Went in at 6:45AM and need to pull these at 3:00 PM and put in > the cooler for a 4:00 feed. > Wind was a little snappy this mornin but seems calm now. Thundershowers > are forecast all day. Have the cooker under a patio so it will be dry > and have shielded most of the cooker from the wind. > I'll check temp around 1:00 PM and see where they stand. Can you > ballpark what temp and how much time do I need if a finish in the oven > is neccessary? The roasts are about 8 - 9 Lb each. > > Thanks, going back to bed for now...zzz If you need or want to finish in the oven, the time and temp are exactly the same as they would be for your smoker. Other than the smoke in your smoker, and oven and a smoker are effectively the same with no change to the target temperature or expected cooking times. |
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"Pete C." > wrote:
> Sonoran Dude wrote: > > [ . . . ] > If you need or want to finish in the oven, the time and temp are exactly > the same as they would be for your smoker. Other than the smoke in your > smoker, and oven and a smoker are effectively the same with no change to > the target temperature or expected cooking times. If you have a gas oven, you can effectively put a foil wrapped (and pricked) packet of smoke chips in the bottom of your oven. -- Nick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ! ~Semper Fi~ |
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Sonoran Dude wrote:
> Dudes, > I've never finished a smoke in the oven but have two large shoulders in > the WSM. Went in at 6:45AM and need to pull these at 3:00 PM and put in > the cooler for a 4:00 feed. > Wind was a little snappy this mornin but seems calm now. Thundershowers > are forecast all day. Have the cooker under a patio so it will be dry > and have shielded most of the cooker from the wind. > I'll check temp around 1:00 PM and see where they stand. Can you > ballpark what temp and how much time do I need if a finish in the oven > is neccessary? The roasts are about 8 - 9 Lb each. > > Thanks, going back to bed for now...zzz Thanks for the feedback folks.... The butts came out just right after the wind died down and the sun came out about an hour after sunrise. I was busy then and wasn't able to get back to the group but have learned some good tips if this happens next time. You guys are great in a pinch... sorry for the false alarm. One thing I did learn though... don't ever get into multiple rounds of cheap vodka shots... it's nearly 6 days later and I'm still regretting it. Adios amigos |
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On 30-Aug-2007, Sonoran Dude > wrote: > Sonoran Dude wrote: > > Dudes, > > I've never finished a smoke in the oven but have two large shoulders in > > the WSM. Went in at 6:45AM and need to pull these at 3:00 PM and put in > > the cooler for a 4:00 feed. > > Wind was a little snappy this mornin but seems calm now. Thundershowers > > are forecast all day. Have the cooker under a patio so it will be dry > > and have shielded most of the cooker from the wind. > > I'll check temp around 1:00 PM and see where they stand. Can you > > ballpark what temp and how much time do I need if a finish in the oven > > is neccessary? The roasts are about 8 - 9 Lb each. > > > > Thanks, going back to bed for now...zzz > > Thanks for the feedback folks.... The butts came out just right after > the wind died down and the sun came out about an hour after sunrise. I > was busy then and wasn't able to get back to the group but have learned > some good tips if this happens next time. You guys are great in a > pinch... sorry for the false alarm. One thing I did learn though... > don't ever get into multiple rounds of cheap vodka shots... it's nearly > 6 days later and I'm still regretting it. > Adios amigos Sorry that you felt driven to drink, however you cannot claim bragging rights for a colassal bender unless your fingernails itch and your hair hurts. -- Brick(Save a tree, eat a Beaver) |
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