Shopping over the weekend at one of the local supermarkets (Schnucks
for you STL people), I noted that they'd expanded their selection of
charcoal. They had stocked both Kingsford and Royal Oak lump. They also
had a variety of all-natural, no-additive briquettes. Unfortunately, it
wasn't a brand name that I recognized, and I've now forgotten it.




Brian

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Default User wrote:
> Shopping over the weekend at one of the local supermarkets (Schnucks
> for you STL people), I noted that they'd expanded their selection of
> charcoal. They had stocked both Kingsford and Royal Oak lump. They
> also had a variety of all-natural, no-additive briquettes.
> Unfortunately, it wasn't a brand name that I recognized, and I've now
> forgotten it.
>
>
>
>
> Brian

Saw the same thing in Dierbergs-STL. Can't remember what the name was, but
there seemed to be several brands of lump available. Nice to see the local
groceries getting a clue-by-four for a change.

EZ

Default User wrote:
> Shopping over the weekend at one of the local supermarkets (Schnucks
> for you STL people), I noted that they'd expanded their selection of
> charcoal. They had stocked both Kingsford and Royal Oak lump.

I've heard that Kingsford lump is supposed to be good stuff,
but I have yet to see it in my area.

> They also
> had a variety of all-natural, no-additive briquettes. Unfortunately, it
> wasn't a brand name that I recognized, and I've now forgotten it.

Was it Original Charcoal Company Rancher briquettes?

Dana

Dana Myers wrote:

> Default User wrote:
> > Shopping over the weekend at one of the local supermarkets (Schnucks
> > for you STL people), I noted that they'd expanded their selection of
> > charcoal. They had stocked both Kingsford and Royal Oak lump.
>
> I've heard that Kingsford lump is supposed to be good stuff,
> but I have yet to see it in my area.

Nakedwiz gave it a fairly good review:

<http://www.nakedwhiz.com/lumpdatabase/lumpbag56.htm>

Not as highly rated as my current standard, Fire King from the local
hardware store, but not bad.

> > They also
> > had a variety of all-natural, no-additive briquettes.

> Was it Original Charcoal Company Rancher briquettes?

That doesn't sound familar, but I'm not sure. I tried to memorize it,
but then managed to forget.



Brian

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EZ wrote:

> Default User wrote:
> > Shopping over the weekend at one of the local supermarkets (Schnucks
> > for you STL people), I noted that they'd expanded their selection of
> > charcoal. They had stocked both Kingsford and Royal Oak lump. They
> > also had a variety of all-natural, no-additive briquettes.
> > Unfortunately, it wasn't a brand name that I recognized, and I've
> > now forgotten it.

> Saw the same thing in Dierbergs-STL. Can't remember what the name
> was, but there seemed to be several brands of lump available. Nice to
> see the local groceries getting a clue-by-four for a change.

This seems very recent at Schnucks, at least mine, because I'm sure
they didn't have it last week. In fact, the bags were sitting in the
aisle, looks like they haven't figured out a shelving strategy yet.



Brian

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> That doesn't sound familar, but I'm not sure. I tried to memorize it,
> but then managed to forget.


You and me been drinkin' the same stuff, apparently.

-what the heck was my name again?

Default User wrote:
>
> Dana Myers wrote:
>
> > Default User wrote:
> > > Shopping over the weekend at one of the local supermarkets (Schnucks
> > > for you STL people), I noted that they'd expanded their selection of
> > > charcoal. They had stocked both Kingsford and Royal Oak lump.
> >
> > I've heard that Kingsford lump is supposed to be good stuff,
> > but I have yet to see it in my area.
>
> Nakedwiz gave it a fairly good review:
>
> <http://www.nakedwhiz.com/lumpdatabase/lumpbag56.htm>
>
> Not as highly rated as my current standard, Fire King from the local
> hardware store, but not bad.
>
> > > They also
> > > had a variety of all-natural, no-additive briquettes.
>
> > Was it Original Charcoal Company Rancher briquettes?
>
> That doesn't sound familar, but I'm not sure. I tried to memorize it,
> but then managed to forget.
>

Get a cell phone with a camera. See something at the store - take a pic
of it, park in a big garage or lot - take a pic of the space info, hotel
room number - take a pic, need parts for a project like sink drain
plumbing - take a pic, etc. Damn handy things, don't know how I got
along without one.

Pete C.

Pete C. wrote:

> Default User wrote:

> > That doesn't sound familar, but I'm not sure. I tried to memorize
> > it, but then managed to forget.
> >
>
> Get a cell phone with a camera.

I don't have a cell phone of any sort, nor do I plan to.



Brian

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won't shut up.
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>
> I don't have a cell phone of any sort, nor do I plan to.
>
>

all thumbs up brian. my boss canceled my cell phone as i never answered it.

joe
petersburg (who thinks the ringing is just an invitation, not a command)
alaska

Curious, I've been using Kingsford for grilling and smoking. How does Royal
Oak compare?

Mike

"Default User" > wrote in message
...
>
> Shopping over the weekend at one of the local supermarkets (Schnucks
> for you STL people), I noted that they'd expanded their selection of
> charcoal. They had stocked both Kingsford and Royal Oak lump. They also
> had a variety of all-natural, no-additive briquettes. Unfortunately, it
> wasn't a brand name that I recognized, and I've now forgotten it.
>
>
>
>
> Brian
>
> --
> If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
> won't shut up.
> -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:30:56 GMT, "EZ" >
gave us:
>Default User wrote:

>> Shopping over the weekend at one of the local supermarkets (Schnucks
>> for you STL people), I noted that they'd expanded their selection of
>> charcoal. They had stocked both Kingsford and Royal Oak lump. They
>> also had a variety of all-natural, no-additive briquettes.
>> Unfortunately, it wasn't a brand name that I recognized, and I've now
>> forgotten it.

>Saw the same thing in Dierbergs-STL. Can't remember what the name was, but
>there seemed to be several brands of lump available. Nice to see the local
>groceries getting a clue-by-four for a change.

I bought some Cowboy Hardwood Lump Charcoal at Lowe's in Fairview
Heights a couple of weeks ago.

A picture of the bag can be seen he
http://www.cowboycharcoal.com/contact.htm

--
Lance

"Some of the things I've seen here I haven't seen anywhere else I've
managed."
-- Lou Piniella articulates what it means to be initiated into Cubdom
6/2/07

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In article >, ost
says...
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:38:55 -0500, Lance Freezeland wrote:
>
> > I bought some Cowboy Hardwood Lump Charcoal at Lowe's in Fairview
> > Heights a couple of weeks ago.
> >
> > A picture of the bag can be seen he
>
> [making the sign of the cross]
>
> Ahhh! EVIL!
>
> You know, I'm kinda surprised they haven't trued to sue me yet.

Is cowboy awful stuff? While I haven't done an exhaustive search, it's
all I could find around here. And sadly, it was that or Kingsford
briquettes

I found that it burned hot but sure didn't burn for long - but that was
OK because I was just doing a chicken in the wsm. I don't know if I
could use it for a long smoke though.

--
Bill

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:02:04 -0700, Bill Riel > gave
us:
>In article >, ost
>says...
>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:38:55 -0500, Lance Freezeland wrote:

>> > I bought some Cowboy Hardwood Lump Charcoal at Lowe's in Fairview
>> > Heights a couple of weeks ago.

>> > A picture of the bag can be seen he

>> [making the sign of the cross]

>> Ahhh! EVIL!

>> You know, I'm kinda surprised they haven't trued to sue me yet.

>Is cowboy awful stuff? While I haven't done an exhaustive search, it's
>all I could find around here. And sadly, it was that or Kingsford
>briquettes

>I found that it burned hot but sure didn't burn for long - but that was
>OK because I was just doing a chicken in the wsm. I don't know if I
>could use it for a long smoke though.

I had never used it before. My experience was similar to yours --
fast and hot and it was gone pretty quick. It sure didn't last very
long in the smoker. I'll look around for some other sort of lump the
next time I buy.

--
Lance

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Bright antennae bristle with the energy
Emotional feedback on timeless wavelength
Bearing a gift beyond price, almost free."
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Lance Freezeland wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:02:04 -0700, Bill Riel > gave
> us:

> > Is cowboy awful stuff? While I haven't done an exhaustive search,
> > it's all I could find around here. And sadly, it was that or
> > Kingsford briquettes
>
> > I found that it burned hot but sure didn't burn for long - but that
> > was OK because I was just doing a chicken in the wsm. I don't know
> > if I could use it for a long smoke though.
>
> I had never used it before. My experience was similar to yours --
> fast and hot and it was gone pretty quick. It sure didn't last very
> long in the smoker. I'll look around for some other sort of lump the
> next time I buy.

You can try the Schnucks in Fairview Heights and see if they are
stocking Royal Oak or Kingsford lump. I don't know if the True Value
stores in your area carry the Fire King brand that I use, that may be
something that's unique to Handyman stores over here.



Brian

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Bill Riel wrote:
>>> I bought some Cowboy Hardwood Lump Charcoal at Lowe's in Fairview
>>> Heights a couple of weeks ago.

Do It Best Hardware carried Royal Oak nationally that they ship to their
store nearest you. A 20# bag is $12.49.

Look here for product info and their store lacator...
http://doitbest.com/search-PRODUCT-ROYAL+OAK.dib

-frohe

On 10 Jul 2007 23:44:44 GMT, "Default User" >
gave us:
>Lance Freezeland wrote:

>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:02:04 -0700, Bill Riel > gave
>> us:

>> > Is cowboy awful stuff? While I haven't done an exhaustive search,
>> > it's all I could find around here. And sadly, it was that or
>> > Kingsford briquettes

>> > I found that it burned hot but sure didn't burn for long - but that
>> > was OK because I was just doing a chicken in the wsm. I don't know
>> > if I could use it for a long smoke though.

>> I had never used it before. My experience was similar to yours --
>> fast and hot and it was gone pretty quick. It sure didn't last very
>> long in the smoker. I'll look around for some other sort of lump the
>> next time I buy.

>You can try the Schnucks in Fairview Heights and see if they are
>stocking Royal Oak or Kingsford lump. I don't know if the True Value
>stores in your area carry the Fire King brand that I use, that may be
>something that's unique to Handyman stores over here.

Well, I'm quite a distance from Fairview Heights, but I'll check
around here on the prairie. When you reference Royal Oak, I assume
that you're talking about Royal Oak Lump. I've seen Royal Oak
briquettes around here for years, and have always assumed that they're
junk. Is that incorrect?

--
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Lance Freezeland wrote:

> On 10 Jul 2007 23:44:44 GMT, "Default User" >
> gave us:

> > You can try the Schnucks in Fairview Heights and see if they are
> > stocking Royal Oak or Kingsford lump. I don't know if the True Value
> > stores in your area carry the Fire King brand that I use, that may
> > be something that's unique to Handyman stores over here.
>
> Well, I'm quite a distance from Fairview Heights, but I'll check
> around here on the prairie.

Ah. You'd mentioned FH previously. I'm not sure what might be closer to
you, you can check various store locators of course.

> When you reference Royal Oak, I assume
> that you're talking about Royal Oak Lump.

Right. As I mentioned in the first post, the Schucks over my way just
started carrying it.

> I've seen Royal Oak
> briquettes around here for years, and have always assumed that they're
> junk. Is that incorrect?

I'm not as militant about briquettes as some here. I've used RO
briquettes in the past, when decent lump wasn't as easy to get, they
seemed ok. Now there's little reason to as I can grab a bag of Fire
King on one of my trips to Handyman Hardware (and use the $2 off online
coupon).



Brian

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"Bill Riel" wrote in message...
> In article squertz says...
>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:38:55 -0500, Lance Freezeland wrote:
>>
>> > I bought some Cowboy Hardwood Lump Charcoal at Lowe's in Fairview
>> > Heights a couple of weeks ago.
>> >
>> > A picture of the bag can be seen he
>>
>> [making the sign of the cross]
>>
>> Ahhh! EVIL!
>>
>> You know, I'm kinda surprised they haven't trued to sue me yet.
>
> Is cowboy awful stuff?

The last bag that I bought had 1 piece of plywood about 6" X 4.5" and
several others about 3" X 3". Only partially charred. I don't know about
the wood (probably some sort of wood I wouldn't want to cook on...), but I
know that I don't want the adhesive/glue burning anywhere near my food.
Cowboy company said that it could *not* have happened. So much for *their*
interest. So much for *my* money.

> While I haven't done an exhaustive search, it's
> all I could find around here. And sadly, it was that or Kingsford
> briquettes

Personally, I'd buy the Kingsford.

BOB

BOB wrote:

> The last bag that I bought had 1 piece of plywood about 6" X 4.5" and
> several others about 3" X 3". Only partially charred. I don't know about
> the wood (probably some sort of wood I wouldn't want to cook on...), but I
> know that I don't want the adhesive/glue burning anywhere near my food.
> Cowboy company said that it could *not* have happened. So much for *their*
> interest. So much for *my* money.
>

Plywood, with it's formaldehyde based glue is bad enough. A greater
fear of using possible construction clean-up is the possibility of
getting some CCA-treated wood going into the charcoal.
--
---Nonnymus---
You don’t stand any taller by
trying to make others appear shorter.

In article >,
says...
>
> The last bag that I bought had 1 piece of plywood about 6" X 4.5" and
> several others about 3" X 3". Only partially charred. I don't know about
> the wood (probably some sort of wood I wouldn't want to cook on...), but I
> know that I don't want the adhesive/glue burning anywhere near my food.
> Cowboy company said that it could *not* have happened. So much for *their*
> interest. So much for *my* money.
>
> > While I haven't done an exhaustive search, it's
> > all I could find around here. And sadly, it was that or Kingsford
> > briquettes
>
> Personally, I'd buy the Kingsford.
>
> BOB

wow - thanks for the info!

Time to do a more exhaustive search locally...

--
Bill

In article > ,
says...
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > The last bag that I bought had 1 piece of plywood about 6" X 4.5" and
> > several others about 3" X 3". Only partially charred. I don't know about
> > the wood (probably some sort of wood I wouldn't want to cook on...), but I
> > know that I don't want the adhesive/glue burning anywhere near my food.
> > Cowboy company said that it could *not* have happened. So much for *their*
> > interest. So much for *my* money.
> >
> > > While I haven't done an exhaustive search, it's
> > > all I could find around here. And sadly, it was that or Kingsford
> > > briquettes
> >
> > Personally, I'd buy the Kingsford.
> >
> > BOB
>
> wow - thanks for the info!
>
> Time to do a more exhaustive search locally...

Well, I found a place that has royal oak lump. I bought a bag but
haven't used it yet. I'm hoping it's better than Cowboy!

--
Bill

Denny Wheeler wrote:

> On 9 Jul 2007 22:37:28 GMT, "Default User" >
> wrote:
>
> > I don't have a cell phone of any sort, nor do I plan to.
>
> I'm with you on the first part; I know I will get one. Probably next
> decade or so.

I'm not saying I'll never get one, I'm saying I don't plan to.

I took a day off a while back to take the Bronco into the shop. Most of
the people hanging out with me in the waiting room were retiree types.
They all had cell phones, which they talked on constantly (and LOUDLY).





Brian

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Bill Riel wrote:

> In article >,
> says...
> >
> > The last bag that I bought had 1 piece of plywood about 6" X 4.5"
> > and several others about 3" X 3". Only partially charred. I
> > don't know about the wood (probably some sort of wood I wouldn't
> > want to cook on...), but I know that I don't want the adhesive/glue
> > burning anywhere near my food. Cowboy company said that it could
> > not have happened. So much for their interest. So much for my
> > money.

> wow - thanks for the info!
>
> Time to do a more exhaustive search locally...

The advice given elsewhere for using Doitbest hardware stores is a good
one if you can't easily find lump.



Brian

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In article >,
says...
> Bill Riel wrote:
> >>> I bought some Cowboy Hardwood Lump Charcoal at Lowe's in Fairview
> >>> Heights a couple of weeks ago.
>
> Do It Best Hardware carried Royal Oak nationally that they ship to their
> store nearest you. A 20# bag is $12.49.
>
> Look here for product info and their store lacator...
> http://doitbest.com/search-PRODUCT-ROYAL+OAK.dib

Forgot to thank you for the advice. One problem is that I am in Canada -
fortunately, I was able to find Royal Oak lump at a local store.

--
Bill

Default User wrote:
> Denny Wheeler wrote:
>
>> On 9 Jul 2007 22:37:28 GMT, "Default User" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have a cell phone of any sort, nor do I plan to.
>> I'm with you on the first part; I know I will get one. Probably next
>> decade or so.
>
> I'm not saying I'll never get one, I'm saying I don't plan to.
>
> I took a day off a while back to take the Bronco into the shop. Most of
> the people hanging out with me in the waiting room were retiree types.
> They all had cell phones, which they talked on constantly (and LOUDLY).
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian
>
So there we were, broke down in my classic '67 goat about half way
between Coalinga and Hanford. 105 degrees, middle of the day, and my 3
year old grandson was not doing well without water or shade. 3 hours and
20 minutes later a wonderful lady stopped and asked if we needed help.
Hoping for a ride to a gas station, I said "Yes"! She pulled out her
cell phone, and 10 minutes later we had the help we needed in the form
of a tow truck to the nearest town (Hanford) where we got a motel room
with a pool.

That was 10 years ago. I am to this day enjoying the hell out of my
cell phone, purchased the next day.

Dave

Dave Turner wrote:

> Default User wrote:

> > I'm not saying I'll never get one, I'm saying I don't plan to.
> > I took a day off a while back to take the Bronco into the shop.
> > Most of the people hanging out with me in the waiting room were
> > retiree types. They all had cell phones, which they talked on
> > constantly (and LOUDLY).

> So there we were, broke down in my classic '67 goat about half way
> between Coalinga and Hanford. 105 degrees, middle of the day, and my
> 3 year old grandson was not doing well without water or shade. 3
> hours and 20 minutes later a wonderful lady stopped and asked if we
> needed help. Hoping for a ride to a gas station, I said "Yes"! She
> pulled out her cell phone, and 10 minutes later we had the help we
> needed in the form of a tow truck to the nearest town (Hanford) where
> we got a motel room with a pool.

I don't have any grandchildren.



Brian

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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:10:26 -0700, Dave Turner
> wrote:

>Default User wrote:
>> Denny Wheeler wrote:
>>
>>> On 9 Jul 2007 22:37:28 GMT, "Default User" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't have a cell phone of any sort, nor do I plan to.
>>> I'm with you on the first part; I know I will get one. Probably next
>>> decade or so.
>>
>> I'm not saying I'll never get one, I'm saying I don't plan to.
>>
>> I took a day off a while back to take the Bronco into the shop. Most of
>> the people hanging out with me in the waiting room were retiree types.
>> They all had cell phones, which they talked on constantly (and LOUDLY).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian
>>
> So there we were, broke down in my classic '67 goat about half way
>between Coalinga and Hanford. 105 degrees, middle of the day, and my 3
>year old grandson was not doing well without water or shade. 3 hours and
>20 minutes later a wonderful lady stopped and asked if we needed help.
>Hoping for a ride to a gas station, I said "Yes"! She pulled out her
>cell phone, and 10 minutes later we had the help we needed in the form
>of a tow truck to the nearest town (Hanford) where we got a motel room
>with a pool.
>
> That was 10 years ago. I am to this day enjoying the hell out of my
>cell phone, purchased the next day.
>
> Dave

I would not put a car on the road in an Alberta Winter without the
benefit of a cel phone. My wife was not a believer until she blew out
a tire at -30c and was able to call AMA for help.

Her sister has discontinued her land line and just uses the Cel.
How about when the 'whatever' service/delivery is scheduled for the
hours between 8AM and 8PM? Do you want to sit around or ask them to
call your cel when they are on stop away so that you can meet up with
them & not lose a day out of your own life?

Harry
whose phone is set on vibrate so as not to disturb folks and who
returns calls every half hour on the hour during business hours.

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:39:37 -0700, Bill Riel > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>> Bill Riel wrote:
>> >>> I bought some Cowboy Hardwood Lump Charcoal at Lowe's in Fairview
>> >>> Heights a couple of weeks ago.
>>
>> Do It Best Hardware carried Royal Oak nationally that they ship to their
>> store nearest you. A 20# bag is $12.49.
>>
>> Look here for product info and their store lacator...
>> http://doitbest.com/search-PRODUCT-ROYAL+OAK.dib
>
>Forgot to thank you for the advice. One problem is that I am in Canada -
>fortunately, I was able to find Royal Oak lump at a local store.
>
>--
>Bill

Royal Oak is a regular item at every Can Tire store.

Harry

Harry Demidavicius wrote:


> I would not put a car on the road in an Alberta Winter without the
> benefit of a cel phone. My wife was not a believer until she blew out
> a tire at -30c and was able to call AMA for help.

I don't live in Alberta.

> Her sister has discontinued her land line and just uses the Cel.
> How about when the 'whatever' service/delivery is scheduled for the
> hours between 8AM and 8PM? Do you want to sit around or ask them to
> call your cel when they are on stop away so that you can meet up with
> them & not lose a day out of your own life?

I have a phone on my desk at work. However, we have such a nice
flexible new culture environment these days that I can schedule a "work
at home" day if need be, even though I'm not officially in the work at
home program. I just email myself some stuff to work on.

> whose phone is set on vibrate so as not to disturb folks and who
> returns calls every half hour on the hour during business hours.

In general, at work I STRONGLY discourage people from calling. Phone
conversations are fraught with misunderstandings and misrememberings.
Email is a much better tool.




Brian

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On Jul 9, 1:02 pm, "Default User" > wrote:
> Shopping over the weekend at one of the local supermarkets (Schnucks
> for you STL people), I noted that they'd expanded their selection of charcoal.
> They had stocked both Kingsford and Royal Oak lump. They also
> had a variety of all-natural, no-additive briquettes. Unfortunately, it
> wasn't a brand name that I recognized, and I've now forgotten it.

Digging this out of the Google archive, as I remembered to look.

<http://www.nrginternational.com/ourproducts/>

Top row, center.



Brian