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Lately I've heard constructions of the following form:

"The pitcher had water in...."

My intuition would be to state that as:

"The pitcher had water in it...."

Is the "it" really unnecessary?


Why is this any different from "teh pitcher had a frame on...."








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Dan Krueger wrote:

Lately I've heard constructions of the following form:

"The pitcher had water in...."

My intuition would be to state that as:

"The pitcher had water in it...."


Yours is a good intuition.

Is the "it" really unnecessary?


Yes.

Why is this any different from "teh pitcher had a frame on...."


That expression makes no sense to me (even ignoring the typo). There's an
"it" missing.

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"Skitt" answers a question:

Lately I've heard constructions of the following form:

"The pitcher had water in...."

My intuition would be to state that as:

"The pitcher had water in it...."


Yours is a good intuition.


Is the "it" really unnecessary?


Yes.


This seems contradictory.

If I'm saying this, I find the "it" necessary. But there are many similar
constructs where the analogous word isn't necessary ("a woman with a nice
dress on"), so I don't think it's surprising that some people would prefer
not to use it here.
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Mark Brader wrote:
"Skitt" answers a question:


Lately I've heard constructions of the following form:

"The pitcher had water in...."

My intuition would be to state that as:

"The pitcher had water in it...."


Yours is a good intuition.


Is the "it" really unnecessary?


Yes.


This seems contradictory.

If I'm saying this, I find the "it" necessary. But there are many
similar constructs where the analogous word isn't necessary ("a woman
with a nice dress on"), so I don't think it's surprising that some
people would prefer not to use it here.


Omigosh -- I misread the "unnecessary" as "necessary". My apologies. I
must have experienced a senior moment. In the pitcher sentence, the "it" is
necessary.
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