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Old 31-10-2003, 04:34 AM
 
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Anybody have a really good recipe for chocolate chip cookies that retain a
soft texture after baking?
Thanks



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Old 31-10-2003, 02:11 PM
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Anybody have a really good recipe for chocolate chip cookies that retain a
soft texture after baking?
Thanks


Here is a link to three variation of the cookie that result in different
textures. Try the "chewey"
http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show..._17114,00.html


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wrote in message news[email protected]
Anybody have a really good recipe for chocolate chip cookies that retain a
soft texture after baking?
Thanks


Here is a link to three variation of the cookie that result in different
textures. Try the "chewey"
http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show..._17114,00.html


I love Alton Brown's show Good Eats, although he has been getting a little
weird lately. I saw that his recipe calls for kosher salt. Why does he
always want kosher salt? Is it because it is pure salt?

I was surprised to find out that some salt has other ingredients. I've
even seen a salt in the US that has sugar in it. I'm assuming that kosher
salt is just his way of ensuring it is pure sodium chloride (NaCl). Am I
right? Or is there some other reason?

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On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, Vox Humana wrote:


wrote in message

news[email protected]
Anybody have a really good recipe for chocolate chip cookies that

retain a
soft texture after baking?
Thanks


Here is a link to three variation of the cookie that result in different
textures. Try the "chewey"

http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show..._17114,00.html

I love Alton Brown's show Good Eats, although he has been getting a little
weird lately. I saw that his recipe calls for kosher salt. Why does he
always want kosher salt? Is it because it is pure salt?

I was surprised to find out that some salt has other ingredients. I've
even seen a salt in the US that has sugar in it. I'm assuming that kosher
salt is just his way of ensuring it is pure sodium chloride (NaCl). Am I
right? Or is there some other reason?


I agree that the show is becoming more bazaar. It seems to be the Food
Network way: style above substance. I use regular salt when I bake because
it has a smaller particle size than Kosher salt and distributes better and
doesn't get left behind in a sieve like Kosher salt. Most recipes are
formulated for regular table salt. If you want the same amount of Kosher
salt by weight you would have to use 1.5 times more Morton's Kosher salt and
2 times more Diamond Kosher salt than specified in the recipe. This is
because the different crystal sizes in each kind of salt pack together with
different densities.

Kosher salt doesn't have iodine or anti-caking agents added. I really doubt
that either of these things would be critical to a recipe in the amounts
used. Of course you can always get non-iodized table salt.


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Old 31-10-2003, 07:14 PM
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"Vox Humana" writes:

From: "Vox Humana"
Newsgroups: rec.food.baking
Subject: Request - Soft Chocolate Chip Cookie Recipe
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:10:34 GMT

"Darrell Grainger" wrote:

. . . I saw that his recipe calls for kosher salt. Why does he
always want kosher salt? Is it because it is pure salt?

I was surprised to find out that some salt has other ingredients. I've
even seen a salt in the US that has sugar in it. I'm assuming that kosher
salt is just his way of ensuring it is pure sodium chloride (NaCl). Am I
right? Or is there some other reason?


. . . I use regular salt when I bake because it has a smaller particle
size than Kosher salt and distributes better and doesn't get left behind in
a sieve like Kosher salt. Most recipes are formulated for regular table
salt. If you want the same amount of Kosher salt by weight you would have
to use 1.5 times more Morton's Kosher salt and 2 times more Diamond Kosher
salt than specified in the recipe. This is because the different crystal
sizes in each kind of salt pack together with different densities.

Kosher salt doesn't have iodine or anti-caking agents added. I really doubt
that either of these things would be critical to a recipe in the amounts
used. Of course you can always get non-iodized table salt.


One of the other attributes of "kosher" salt is that the crystals are
irregularly shaped with lots of nooks and crannies. This provides a
larger surface area for water and other liquids to be absorbed.

See the excellent electron microscope photo on the Boston Museum of Science
web page at http://www.mos.org/sln/sem/ksalt.html

Keep in mind that this salt is called "kosher" salt because it is used in
the preparation of kosher meat. One of the religious requirements of meat
being kosher is that the blood is removed. This is done by using salt to
absorb the blood from the meat -- and kosher salt's granuals are optimized
for this purpose.

These irregular shaped crystals are useful for recipes which use salt on
the surface -- sprinkled on, stuck on, etc. If the salt is to be desolved
into the recipe, the shape of the grains makes no difference except in
its effect on measurement as noted by Vox Humana above.

Cheers,
The Old Bear




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Old 01-11-2003, 12:20 AM
Judy and Dave G
 
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wrote in message news[email protected]
Anybody have a really good recipe for chocolate chip cookies that retain a
soft texture after baking?
Thanks

I had been using the 3-way chocolate chip cookie recipe that Vox recommends
for quite awhile. Then I tried the following recipe that I picked up over
on alt.cookies.yumyumyum and everyone has asked that I keep using this one.
Hope you like it.

Judy

From: LindaVE )
Subject: Award Winning Soft Chocolate Chip Cookies
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Date: 2001-02-19 16:40:09 PST

* Exported from MasterCook II *

Award Winning Soft Chocolate Chip Cookies

Recipe By :
Serving Size : 96 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Cookies Drop
Chocolate Chips
Nuts

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
4 1/2 cups all-purpose flour
2 teaspoons baking soda
2 cups butter or margarine
1 1/2 cups packed brown sugar
1/2 cup sugar
2 pkg(4 serv) instant pudding mix -- any flavor
4 eggs
2 teaspoons vanilla extract
4 cups semisweet chocolate chips
2 cups walnuts -- chopped

Directions:
1. Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C).
2. Sift together the flour and baking soda, set aside. In a large bowl,
cream together the butter, brown sugar and white sugar. Stir in the
instant pudding until blended. Then stir in the eggs and vanilla. Add the
dry ingredients and mix well. Finally, stir in the chocolate chips and
nuts.
3. Drop cookies by rounded spoonfuls onto unprepared cookie sheets. Bake
for 10 to 12 minutes in the preheated oven. Edges should be golden brown.





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Old 01-11-2003, 01:34 AM
tgt
 
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"The Old Bear" wrote in message
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"Vox Humana" writes:

From: "Vox Humana"
Newsgroups: rec.food.baking
Subject: Request - Soft Chocolate Chip Cookie Recipe
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 16:10:34 GMT

"Darrell Grainger" wrote:

. . . I saw that his recipe calls for kosher salt. Why does he
always want kosher salt? Is it because it is pure salt?

I was surprised to find out that some salt has other ingredients. I've
even seen a salt in the US that has sugar in it. I'm assuming that

kosher
salt is just his way of ensuring it is pure sodium chloride (NaCl). Am

I
right? Or is there some other reason?


. . . I use regular salt when I bake because it has a smaller

particle
size than Kosher salt and distributes better and doesn't get left behind

in
a sieve like Kosher salt. Most recipes are formulated for regular table
salt. If you want the same amount of Kosher salt by weight you would

have
to use 1.5 times more Morton's Kosher salt and 2 times more Diamond

Kosher
salt than specified in the recipe. This is because the different crystal
sizes in each kind of salt pack together with different densities.

Kosher salt doesn't have iodine or anti-caking agents added. I really

doubt
that either of these things would be critical to a recipe in the amounts
used. Of course you can always get non-iodized table salt.


One of the other attributes of "kosher" salt is that the crystals are
irregularly shaped with lots of nooks and crannies. This provides a
larger surface area for water and other liquids to be absorbed.

See the excellent electron microscope photo on the Boston Museum of

Science
web page at http://www.mos.org/sln/sem/ksalt.html

Keep in mind that this salt is called "kosher" salt because it is used in
the preparation of kosher meat. One of the religious requirements of meat
being kosher is that the blood is removed. This is done by using salt to
absorb the blood from the meat -- and kosher salt's granuals are optimized
for this purpose.

These irregular shaped crystals are useful for recipes which use salt on
the surface -- sprinkled on, stuck on, etc. If the salt is to be desolved
into the recipe, the shape of the grains makes no difference except in
its effect on measurement as noted by Vox Humana above.

Cheers,
The Old Bear



But really, even though not all salt is certified by an agency as kosher,
there is nothing to make salt - no matter the size of the grain "un-kosher".
I feel chefs refer to the larger grain of the salt when they call for kosher
salt. I mean, why else would one call for kosher salt in a pork or
shellfish recipe?

Jewish cook in Oregon,
tgt


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"tgt" writes:

From: "tgt"
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Subject: Request - Soft Chocolate Chip Cookie Recipe
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 01:34:20 GMT

"The Old Bear" wrote:

See the excellent electron microscope photo on the Boston Museum of
Science web page at http://www.mos.org/sln/sem/ksalt.html

Keep in mind that this salt is called "kosher" salt because it is used in
the preparation of kosher meat. One of the religious requirements of meat
being kosher is that the blood is removed. This is done by using salt to
absorb the blood from the meat -- and kosher salt's granuals are optimized
for this purpose.

These irregular shaped crystals are useful for recipes which use salt on
the surface -- sprinkled on, stuck on, etc. If the salt is to be desolved
into the recipe, the shape of the grains makes no difference except in
its effect on measurement as noted by Vox Humana above.


But really, even though not all salt is certified by an agency as kosher,
there is nothing to make salt - no matter the size of the grain "un-kosher".
I feel chefs refer to the larger grain of the salt when they call for kosher
salt. I mean, why else would one call for kosher salt in a pork or
shellfish recipe?

Jewish cook in Oregon,
tgt


Yup. I guess that technically it should be called "koshering salt" or "salt
for preparing kosher meat" or something.

The term "Kosher Salt" is like "House Paint" or "Baby Powder" where the
modifying term describes how it is used rather than what it is.

And while House Paint is intended to be used to paint houses and Baby Powder
is commonly used on babies, there is nothing to keep you from using House
Paint to paint your lawn furniture or using baby powder on your adult self.



Cheers,
Will
The Old Bear

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"Vox Humana" wrote in message
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I love Alton Brown's show Good Eats, although he has been getting a

little
weird lately. I saw that his recipe calls for kosher salt. Why does he
always want kosher salt? Is it because it is pure salt?

I was surprised to find out that some salt has other ingredients. I've
even seen a salt in the US that has sugar in it. I'm assuming that

kosher
salt is just his way of ensuring it is pure sodium chloride (NaCl). Am I
right? Or is there some other reason?


I agree that the show is becoming more bazaar. It seems to be the Food
Network way: style above substance.


Yes, most of the new shows seem to be like that. Although, I'm mighty happy
that Michael Chiarella has a new show on the Food Network. He's been a local
treasure here in No. Cal. for years. I adore him.

I use regular salt when I bake because
it has a smaller particle size than Kosher salt and distributes better and
doesn't get left behind in a sieve like Kosher salt. Most recipes are
formulated for regular table salt. If you want the same amount of Kosher
salt by weight you would have to use 1.5 times more Morton's Kosher salt

and
2 times more Diamond Kosher salt than specified in the recipe. This is
because the different crystal sizes in each kind of salt pack together

with
different densities.

Kosher salt doesn't have iodine or anti-caking agents added. I really

doubt
that either of these things would be critical to a recipe in the amounts
used. Of course you can always get non-iodized table salt.

I use a particular French salt for everything. It is finer that regular
table salt and has a better flavor.

Martha






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"MH" wrote in message
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"Vox Humana" wrote in message
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I love Alton Brown's show Good Eats, although he has been getting a

little
weird lately. I saw that his recipe calls for kosher salt. Why does he
always want kosher salt? Is it because it is pure salt?

I was surprised to find out that some salt has other ingredients. I've
even seen a salt in the US that has sugar in it. I'm assuming that

kosher
salt is just his way of ensuring it is pure sodium chloride (NaCl). Am

I
right? Or is there some other reason?


I agree that the show is becoming more bazaar. It seems to be the Food
Network way: style above substance.


Yes, most of the new shows seem to be like that. Although, I'm mighty

happy
that Michael Chiarella has a new show on the Food Network. He's been a

local
treasure here in No. Cal. for years. I adore him.



I haven't seen that show. I had the unfortunate experience of seeing a new
show this weekend on Food TV. The hostess was from some magazine and she was
a complete spaz. It was too painful to watch for more than 10 minutes.
There wasn't a single redeeming feature about the show. Looking at the
schedule, the show was "Good food Fast with Family Circle." What a horror!
http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_ce


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"Vox Humana" wrote:


I haven't seen that show. I had the unfortunate experience of seeing
a new show this weekend on Food TV. The hostess was from some magazine
and she was a complete spaz. It was too painful to watch for more
than 10 minutes. There wasn't a single redeeming feature about the
show. Looking at the schedule, the show was "Good food Fast with
Family Circle." What a horror!
http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_ce



What, you mean Sarah Molton? I'm sure 'executive chef' must be a
purely honorary title at 'Gourmet Magazine'.

Yeah, I remember how dumbfounded i was when she said, "now, if you have
problems with lumps in your roux, you can just use a flat whisk like i
do to get rid of the lumps"

I had to rewind with the tivo a couple times to make sure i hadn't
mis-heard it, and then call my buddy Clint to ask if he'd ever, ever had
a lump in his roux, 'cause i sure hadn't.

I don't go around calling myself a cook, let alone a chef. And *i
could have told you that if you get lumps in your roux, you need to slow
the heck down (or apply more heat) and wait until the water content in
your fat (butter, in this case) boils off. Flat whisk. what a maroon.

How hard can it be? You wait until it stops bubbling. At that point, if
you're sure the heat is still on and it hasn't stopped bubbling purely
because it's gone cold, you can safely add your starch.

I tell you, it was worse than the first time i saw that 'perfect
pancake' commercial, and had to watch it again in slow motion to figure
out how they managed to fold the pancake.

"Does this ever happen to you?!" "Uh, what? No. That never happens to
me. Wait a minute, how DID you do that?"

For the record, they first make the rookie mistake of flipping too
soon, and then, if you watch closely, you can see how the actress
rotates the spatula in her hand and then brings it down with
considerable force, flexing the flat of it against the folded pancake.
It actually looks like it must have taken some practice to get it right.
The torn pancake was just flipped too soon and cooked on too hot of a
surface.



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"Vox Humana" wrote:


I haven't seen that show. I had the unfortunate experience of seeing
a new show this weekend on Food TV. The hostess was from some magazine
and she was a complete spaz. It was too painful to watch for more
than 10 minutes. There wasn't a single redeeming feature about the
show. Looking at the schedule, the show was "Good food Fast with
Family Circle." What a horror!
http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_ce



What, you mean Sarah Molton? I'm sure 'executive chef' must be a
purely honorary title at 'Gourmet Magazine'.


No. I'm afraid that this person was even worse!!! Hard to imagine, but she
was. She couldn't even use measuring cups properly. The set was ugly. Her
wardrobe was ugly. Her knowledge seemed limited. Take a look at the link.


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The set is definitely ugly. She is almost ugly but more butch ugly not butt
ugly. Maybe it's lousy make-up. At least she can almost chop onions.
I am amazed what qualifies as a TV show these days.

Mr Pastry

"Vox Humana" wrote in message
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"Eric Jorgensen" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:36:42 GMT
"Vox Humana" wrote:


I haven't seen that show. I had the unfortunate experience of seeing
a new show this weekend on Food TV. The hostess was from some magazine
and she was a complete spaz. It was too painful to watch for more
than 10 minutes. There wasn't a single redeeming feature about the
show. Looking at the schedule, the show was "Good food Fast with
Family Circle." What a horror!
http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_ce



What, you mean Sarah Molton? I'm sure 'executive chef' must be a
purely honorary title at 'Gourmet Magazine'.


No. I'm afraid that this person was even worse!!! Hard to imagine, but

she
was. She couldn't even use measuring cups properly. The set was ugly.

Her
wardrobe was ugly. Her knowledge seemed limited. Take a look at the

link.




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The set is definitely ugly. She is almost ugly but more butch ugly not

butt
ugly. Maybe it's lousy make-up. At least she can almost chop onions.
I am amazed what qualifies as a TV show these days.

Mr Pastry


The show could pass as a Saturday Night Live parody of a cooking show.







"Vox Humana" wrote in message
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"Eric Jorgensen" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:36:42 GMT
"Vox Humana" wrote:


I haven't seen that show. I had the unfortunate experience of

seeing
a new show this weekend on Food TV. The hostess was from some

magazine
and she was a complete spaz. It was too painful to watch for more
than 10 minutes. There wasn't a single redeeming feature about the
show. Looking at the schedule, the show was "Good food Fast with
Family Circle." What a horror!
http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_ce


What, you mean Sarah Molton? I'm sure 'executive chef' must be a
purely honorary title at 'Gourmet Magazine'.


No. I'm afraid that this person was even worse!!! Hard to imagine, but

she
was. She couldn't even use measuring cups properly. The set was ugly.

Her
wardrobe was ugly. Her knowledge seemed limited. Take a look at the

link.








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