Baking (rec.food.baking) For bakers, would-be bakers, and fans and consumers of breads, pastries, cakes, pies, cookies, crackers, bagels, and other items commonly found in a bakery. Includes all methods of preparation, both conventional and not.

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Old 24-08-2004, 10:07 PM
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Scott wrote:

In article . net,
Dave Bell wrote:

We've come perilously close to invoking Godwin's Law(q.v.) here...


Not really. No reference to Hitler or the Nazis was made, but there WAS
a post that inappropriately singled out a religious group and attacked
it with slurs. Labeling that post bigoted isn't the same as invoking
Godwin's law.


I only said "close"! :{)

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Old 24-08-2004, 10:08 PM
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Scott wrote:

If it's OK for you to do it, why not others? Why, then, shouldn't
thousands of businesses deluge rec.food.baking with their advertising?
Kraft alone could post ads for dozens of brands. You're no more entitled
than they are.


Great, now we'll know whom to blame, when Kraft start deluging us!
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Old 24-08-2004, 10:08 PM
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Scott wrote:

If it's OK for you to do it, why not others? Why, then, shouldn't
thousands of businesses deluge rec.food.baking with their advertising?
Kraft alone could post ads for dozens of brands. You're no more entitled
than they are.


Great, now we'll know whom to blame, when Kraft start deluging us!
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Old 25-08-2004, 12:58 AM
 
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please provide me with the site where these rules are kept so I may have a
leisurely look at them..

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"Scott" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

Though I have seen many offers of sales and services in other REC.

groups.
like in rec.models.scale


Weren't you ever told as a kid "would you follow your friends if they
jumped off a bridge?"? Just because others violate netiquette doesn't
excuse your own act.


and I'm sure since I did get a few orders from this group that their are
professionals posting and lurking in here ..


That's why spam is so popular--despite annoying 9,997 out of 10,000
people, it's a cheap and easy way to get those 3 sales. I just wish
those three people would learn not to encourage the practice. The
spammer attitude is a selfish one--"I can do whatever I want without
regard to courtesy if I benefit from it."

If it's OK for you to do it, why not others? Why, then, shouldn't
thousands of businesses deluge rec.food.baking with their advertising?
Kraft alone could post ads for dozens of brands. You're no more entitled
than they are.


Hell what's easier to buy kosher ready to bake foods for your store /

home/
school / etc or to make them yourself??


Not relevant to the question of unsolicited commercial posts. Besides
which, this group is about baking, not about purchasing baked goods.

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please provide me with the site where these rules are kept so I may have a
leisurely look at them..

--
"I have seen the worst that man can do.and I can still laugh loudly"
R.J. Goldman

http://www.usidfvets.com

and

http://www.stopfcc.com


"Scott" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

Though I have seen many offers of sales and services in other REC.

groups.
like in rec.models.scale


Weren't you ever told as a kid "would you follow your friends if they
jumped off a bridge?"? Just because others violate netiquette doesn't
excuse your own act.


and I'm sure since I did get a few orders from this group that their are
professionals posting and lurking in here ..


That's why spam is so popular--despite annoying 9,997 out of 10,000
people, it's a cheap and easy way to get those 3 sales. I just wish
those three people would learn not to encourage the practice. The
spammer attitude is a selfish one--"I can do whatever I want without
regard to courtesy if I benefit from it."

If it's OK for you to do it, why not others? Why, then, shouldn't
thousands of businesses deluge rec.food.baking with their advertising?
Kraft alone could post ads for dozens of brands. You're no more entitled
than they are.


Hell what's easier to buy kosher ready to bake foods for your store /

home/
school / etc or to make them yourself??


Not relevant to the question of unsolicited commercial posts. Besides
which, this group is about baking, not about purchasing baked goods.

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Problem is with Godwin's law is that if you really are arguing with a Nazi
who is really spouting Nazi rhetoric etc and you call him/her/it a Nazi you
lose even if you are 100% correct. hence that law can only be used when the
person you confront has not issued racist slurs etc .... so that law really
has no teeth does it

--
"I have seen the worst that man can do.and I can still laugh loudly"
R.J. Goldman

http://www.usidfvets.com

and

http://www.stopfcc.com


"Dave Bell" wrote in message
rea.net...
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Scott wrote:

In article . net,
Dave Bell wrote:

We've come perilously close to invoking Godwin's Law(q.v.) here...


Not really. No reference to Hitler or the Nazis was made, but there WAS
a post that inappropriately singled out a religious group and attacked
it with slurs. Labeling that post bigoted isn't the same as invoking
Godwin's law.


I only said "close"! :{)



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Problem is with Godwin's law is that if you really are arguing with a Nazi
who is really spouting Nazi rhetoric etc and you call him/her/it a Nazi you
lose even if you are 100% correct. hence that law can only be used when the
person you confront has not issued racist slurs etc .... so that law really
has no teeth does it

--
"I have seen the worst that man can do.and I can still laugh loudly"
R.J. Goldman

http://www.usidfvets.com

and

http://www.stopfcc.com


"Dave Bell" wrote in message
rea.net...
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, Scott wrote:

In article . net,
Dave Bell wrote:

We've come perilously close to invoking Godwin's Law(q.v.) here...


Not really. No reference to Hitler or the Nazis was made, but there WAS
a post that inappropriately singled out a religious group and attacked
it with slurs. Labeling that post bigoted isn't the same as invoking
Godwin's law.


I only said "close"! :{)



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Old 25-08-2004, 01:02 AM
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:58:16 -0400
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please provide me with the site where these rules are kept so I may have
a leisurely look at them..



http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/


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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:58:16 -0400
wrote:

please provide me with the site where these rules are kept so I may have
a leisurely look at them..



http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/


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Old 25-08-2004, 01:21 AM
 
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from the FAQ: "Announcement of professional products or services on Usenet
is allowed, provided suitable restraint is exercised."

and as per it's explanations of posting to any group I'm not creating spam
in any way shape or form.
reasons
1. posted to an appropriate group FOOD, BAKING.
2. only posted in one group so no screams about cross postings
3. no where did it say that a posting offering to sell or service something
was not allowed in an rec. group.

but since there is so much love in this group I'll just stick around and see
what happens.
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and

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"Eric Jorgensen" wrote in message
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:58:16 -0400
wrote:

please provide me with the site where these rules are kept so I may have
a leisurely look at them..



http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/






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from the FAQ: "Announcement of professional products or services on Usenet
is allowed, provided suitable restraint is exercised."

and as per it's explanations of posting to any group I'm not creating spam
in any way shape or form.
reasons
1. posted to an appropriate group FOOD, BAKING.
2. only posted in one group so no screams about cross postings
3. no where did it say that a posting offering to sell or service something
was not allowed in an rec. group.

but since there is so much love in this group I'll just stick around and see
what happens.
--
"I have seen the worst that man can do.and I can still laugh loudly"
R.J. Goldman

http://www.usidfvets.com

and

http://www.stopfcc.com


"Eric Jorgensen" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:58:16 -0400
wrote:

please provide me with the site where these rules are kept so I may have
a leisurely look at them..



http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/




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Old 25-08-2004, 01:31 AM
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In article ,
wrote:

Problem is with Godwin's law is that if you really are arguing with a Nazi
who is really spouting Nazi rhetoric etc and you call him/her/it a Nazi you
lose even if you are 100% correct. hence that law can only be used when the
person you confront has not issued racist slurs etc .... so that law really
has no teeth does it


racist =/ Nazi

One can be a jerk without advocating genocide.

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Old 25-08-2004, 01:31 AM
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In article ,
wrote:

Problem is with Godwin's law is that if you really are arguing with a Nazi
who is really spouting Nazi rhetoric etc and you call him/her/it a Nazi you
lose even if you are 100% correct. hence that law can only be used when the
person you confront has not issued racist slurs etc .... so that law really
has no teeth does it


racist =/ Nazi

One can be a jerk without advocating genocide.

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Old 25-08-2004, 04:20 AM
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In article ,
wrote:

from the FAQ: "Announcement of professional products or services on Usenet
is allowed, provided suitable restraint is exercised."


I can selectively quote, too. Here's the rest of that paragraph:
"Since someone else is paying the phone bills for this, it is important
that it be of overall benefit to Usenet. One of the few groups where
such information is appropriate is comp.newprod. comp.newprod is a
moderated group; you can get the submission guidelines from the article
"Welcome to comp.newprod", posted periodically to comp.newprod and
news.answers."
and
"There exists an alternative hierarchy called "biz" specifically for
commercial postings."


and as per it's explanations of posting to any group I'm not creating spam
in any way shape or form.
reasons
1. posted to an appropriate group FOOD, BAKING.


A group about how to bake, not about selling baked goods.


2. only posted in one group so no screams about cross postings


No one did. But not cross-posting is not itself a "Get Out of Jail Free"
card.


3. no where did it say that a posting offering to sell or service something
was not allowed in an rec. group.


Because the very definition of what a "rec." group is is more basic than
that--the FAQ tells you to find out what the groups are for.

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Old 25-08-2004, 04:20 AM
Scott
 
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In article ,
wrote:

from the FAQ: "Announcement of professional products or services on Usenet
is allowed, provided suitable restraint is exercised."


I can selectively quote, too. Here's the rest of that paragraph:
"Since someone else is paying the phone bills for this, it is important
that it be of overall benefit to Usenet. One of the few groups where
such information is appropriate is comp.newprod. comp.newprod is a
moderated group; you can get the submission guidelines from the article
"Welcome to comp.newprod", posted periodically to comp.newprod and
news.answers."
and
"There exists an alternative hierarchy called "biz" specifically for
commercial postings."


and as per it's explanations of posting to any group I'm not creating spam
in any way shape or form.
reasons
1. posted to an appropriate group FOOD, BAKING.


A group about how to bake, not about selling baked goods.


2. only posted in one group so no screams about cross postings


No one did. But not cross-posting is not itself a "Get Out of Jail Free"
card.


3. no where did it say that a posting offering to sell or service something
was not allowed in an rec. group.


Because the very definition of what a "rec." group is is more basic than
that--the FAQ tells you to find out what the groups are for.

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