Wasabi and Horse Radish Dangerous in Excess?
 

One of these days, I'll post a "real" message about my favorite Thai dish or
something... But in the meantime, does anyone know if Wasabi or that horse
radish "hot nasal flash" that you get is dangerous in any way? If someone
took a teaspoon of Wasabi straight, could it potentially harm them?

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> Horseradish is toxic in large amounts. Like ... more than a
> pound. A teaspoon, no. Note that there's a root called wasabi,
> which is milder than American horseradish. The 'wasabi powder'
> you see in the asian stores is just dried horseradish root (even
> though it claims to be wasabi).
>
> For an asthmatic or someone with other respiratory problems, I can
> see that it might cause a problem.

My thoughts exactly and I have a "meeting" with a doctor this week to
discuss the use of that type of "hot" food soon afterwards.

> I was surprised to see them
> doing habanero shooters - one ounce of habanero puree on the
> [real] Fear Factor show. If that's 'safe' then horseradish is
> certainly no problem.

You couldn't pay me enough to do a Habernero shot... That's as close to
suicide as you can probably egt without actually making it a success.

> You should probably ask a doctor, though. I only play one on the
> Internet.

Yup. And I'm playing professional researcher. :)
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Steve Wertz wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 02:30:29 GMT, "Joe"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>One of these days, I'll post a "real" message about my favorite Thai dish or
>>something... But in the meantime, does anyone know if Wasabi or that horse
>>radish "hot nasal flash" that you get is dangerous in any way? If someone
>>took a teaspoon of Wasabi straight, could it potentially harm them?
>
>
> Horseradish is toxic in large amounts. Like ... more than a
> pound. A teaspoon, no. Note that there's a root called wasabi,
> which is milder than American horseradish. The 'wasabi powder'
> you see in the asian stores is just dried horseradish root (even
> though it claims to be wasabi).
>
> For an asthmatic or someone with other respiratory problems, I can
> see that it might cause a problem. I was surprised to see them
> doing habanero shooters - one ounce of habanero puree on the
> [real] Fear Factor show. If that's 'safe' then horseradish is
> certainly no problem.

Crimenettely!!! one ounce? I had a thumbnail sized piece of a home grown
habanero and it burned intensely for 30 minutes despite any attempts to
dull the pain. I'm no wuss either, I like hot foods and peppers. These
were well grown baddies :) I later used the rest in cooking where the
intensity seems to be reduced.

> You should probably ask a doctor, though. I only play one on the
> Internet.

Thankyou doctor.

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In article <9lluf.16256$yW1.7749@trnddc05>, Joe
> wrote:

> One of these days, I'll post a "real" message about my favorite Thai dish or
> something... But in the meantime, does anyone know if Wasabi or that horse
> radish "hot nasal flash" that you get is dangerous in any way? If someone
> took a teaspoon of Wasabi straight, could it potentially harm them?

Not an otherwise healthy person no. You have more chance of being
"harmed" by eating beef befowled in some way during breeding, packaging
or preparation.

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In article <2%luf.16268$yW1.2406@trnddc05>, Joe
> wrote:

> > Horseradish is toxic in large amounts. Like ... more than a
> > pound. A teaspoon, no. Note that there's a root called wasabi,
> > which is milder than American horseradish. The 'wasabi powder'
> > you see in the asian stores is just dried horseradish root (even
> > though it claims to be wasabi).
> >
> > For an asthmatic or someone with other respiratory problems, I can
> > see that it might cause a problem.
>
> My thoughts exactly and I have a "meeting" with a doctor this week to
> discuss the use of that type of "hot" food soon afterwards.

What kind of doctor? I'm curious to know what kind of information he
won't give you. I've never had a doctor discuss anything substantive
with me regarding diet or nutrution or vitamins. Just the stock quotes
you'd expect from a doctor who doesn't know or care about any of that.

Certainly a nutrionist, allergy doctor or something like that might
have more interest.

> > I was surprised to see them
> > doing habanero shooters - one ounce of habanero puree on the
> > [real] Fear Factor show. If that's 'safe' then horseradish is
> > certainly no problem.

Many things the do on Fear Factor aren't "safe" by any stretch of the
imagination.

> You couldn't pay me enough to do a Habernero shot... That's as close to
> suicide as you can probably egt without actually making it a success.

Many a pain leads to no lasting damage. You may WANT to die, but no
such luck.

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gtr wrote:

> In article <2%luf.16268$yW1.2406@trnddc05>, Joe
> > wrote:
>
>
>>>Horseradish is toxic in large amounts. Like ... more than a
>>>pound. A teaspoon, no. Note that there's a root called wasabi,
>>>which is milder than American horseradish. The 'wasabi powder'
>>>you see in the asian stores is just dried horseradish root (even
>>>though it claims to be wasabi).
>>>
>>>For an asthmatic or someone with other respiratory problems, I can
>>>see that it might cause a problem.
>>
>>My thoughts exactly and I have a "meeting" with a doctor this week to
>>discuss the use of that type of "hot" food soon afterwards.
>
>
> What kind of doctor? I'm curious to know what kind of information he
> won't give you. I've never had a doctor discuss anything substantive
> with me regarding diet or nutrution or vitamins. Just the stock quotes
> you'd expect from a doctor who doesn't know or care about any of that.

Really? Find another doctor. I discussed diet with my PGP related to
my high cholesterol. He offered information and suggestions of dietary
changes.

> Certainly a nutrionist, allergy doctor or something like that might
> have more interest.

A real doctor should have interest in your care. You should probably seek
another doctor if this is the case.

>>You couldn't pay me enough to do a Habernero shot... That's as close to
>>suicide as you can probably egt without actually making it a success.
>
> Many a pain leads to no lasting damage. You may WANT to die, but no
> such luck.

I enjoy the burn of a good pepper, haberneros are best takes in small
amounts until adjusted to the strength. I am older now, and though I
still enjoy the burn going in, the burn going out I do not.

--
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Wasabi and Horse Radish Dangerous in Excess?
 

gtr > wrote:
> In article <2%luf.16268$yW1.2406@trnddc05>, Joe wrote:
>
> > > Horseradish is toxic in large amounts. Like ... more than a
> > > pound. A teaspoon, no. Note that there's a root called wasabi,
> > > which is milder than American horseradish. The 'wasabi powder'
> > > you see in the asian stores is just dried horseradish root (even
> > > though it claims to be wasabi).
> > >
> > > For an asthmatic or someone with other respiratory problems, I can
> > > see that it might cause a problem.
> >
> > My thoughts exactly and I have a "meeting" with a doctor this week to
> > discuss the use of that type of "hot" food soon afterwards.
>
> What kind of doctor? I'm curious to know what kind of information he
> won't give you. I've never had a doctor discuss anything substantive
> with me regarding diet or nutrution or vitamins. Just the stock quotes
> you'd expect from a doctor who doesn't know or care about any of that.
>
> Certainly a nutrionist, allergy doctor or something like that might
> have more interest.
>
I have had more wasabi and Thai chile peppers than were good for me on more
than one occasion, with no lasting bad results.

I would also propose a clinical toxocologist!

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Dan Logcher > wrote:
> gtr wrote:
> > Joe > wrote:
> >
> >>>Horseradish is toxic in large amounts. Like ... more than a
> >>>pound. A teaspoon, no. Note that there's a root called wasabi,
> >>>which is milder than American horseradish. The 'wasabi powder'
> >>>you see in the asian stores is just dried horseradish root (even
> >>>though it claims to be wasabi).
> >>>
> >>>For an asthmatic or someone with other respiratory problems, I can
> >>>see that it might cause a problem.
> >>
> >>My thoughts exactly and I have a "meeting" with a doctor this week to
> >>discuss the use of that type of "hot" food soon afterwards.
> >
> > What kind of doctor? I'm curious to know what kind of information he
> > won't give you. I've never had a doctor discuss anything substantive
> > with me regarding diet or nutrution or vitamins. Just the stock quotes
> > you'd expect from a doctor who doesn't know or care about any of that.
>
> Really? Find another doctor. I discussed diet with my PGP related to
> my high cholesterol. He offered information and suggestions of dietary
> changes.

Likewise. My Diabetician and PCP not only gives me info and suggestions, he
draws pictures and explains exactly how drugs, etc. work; goes over the
details of lab tests, CAT scans, ultrasounds, et al.
>
> > Certainly a nutritonist, allergy doctor or something like that might
> > have more interest.
>
> A real doctor should have interest in your care. You should probably
> seek another doctor if this is the case.
>
And that's the truth! Dissatisfied with my assembly line GP, I asked my
Cardiologist who his was. He steered me to the right guy!

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In article >, Dan
Logcher > wrote:

> >>My thoughts exactly and I have a "meeting" with a doctor this week to
> >>discuss the use of that type of "hot" food soon afterwards.
> >
> >
> > What kind of doctor? I'm curious to know what kind of information he
> > won't give you. I've never had a doctor discuss anything substantive
> > with me regarding diet or nutrution or vitamins. Just the stock quotes
> > you'd expect from a doctor who doesn't know or care about any of that.
>
> Really? Find another doctor. I discussed diet with my PGP related to
> my high cholesterol. He offered information and suggestions of dietary
> changes.

That's what I mean by "stock quotes you'd expect". But ask about
anything other than artery clogging and scant few other items and you
get bupkis.

> > Certainly a nutrionist, allergy doctor or something like that might
> > have more interest.
>
> A real doctor should have interest in your care. You should probably seek
> another doctor if this is the case.

I asked my doctor, who I have a lot of faith in, some questions
regarding vitamin E and something else. I've forgotten now. He said
"I don't know. For every frail result there's another frail conflicting
result. Look, you don't come to me for vitamin stuff. I can't do
that. I can send you a search on it and you can sort through it if you
like." Relative to another such issue (maybe zinc for colds) I said
sure, and he provided me some confused and conflicting information, all
very authoritative looking.

> >>You couldn't pay me enough to do a Habernero shot... That's as close to
> >>suicide as you can probably egt without actually making it a success.
> >
> > Many a pain leads to no lasting damage. You may WANT to die, but no
> > such luck.
>
> I enjoy the burn of a good pepper, haberneros are best takes in small
> amounts until adjusted to the strength. I am older now, and though I
> still enjoy the burn going in, the burn going out I do not.

I don't like habaneros, except as a dance rhythm or a citizen of
Havana. I do like Brazilian malaguetta's though. Sharp and incisive
but gone in a reasonable time.

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Wasabi and Horse Radish Dangerous in Excess?
 

In article >,
> wrote:

> > > What kind of doctor? I'm curious to know what kind of information he
> > > won't give you. I've never had a doctor discuss anything substantive
> > > with me regarding diet or nutrution or vitamins. Just the stock quotes
> > > you'd expect from a doctor who doesn't know or care about any of that.
> >
> > Really? Find another doctor. I discussed diet with my PGP related to
> > my high cholesterol. He offered information and suggestions of dietary
> > changes.
>
> Likewise. My Diabetician and PCP not only gives me info and suggestions, he
> draws pictures and explains exactly how drugs, etc. work; goes over the
> details of lab tests, CAT scans, ultrasounds, et al.

My doctor does the same thing. While on the ancillary topic "bad
doctor" I should point out I was talking about something less general
than "bad".

> > > Certainly a nutritonist, allergy doctor or something like that might
> > > have more interest.
> >
> > A real doctor should have interest in your care. You should probably
> > seek another doctor if this is the case.
> >
> And that's the truth! Dissatisfied with my assembly line GP, I asked my
> Cardiologist who his was. He steered me to the right guy!

What does the right guy have to say about the real utility of bromelain
and salmon oil as used to quell carpal tunnel syndrome?

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gtr > wrote:
> In article >,
> > wrote:
> [ . . . ]
> > And that's the truth! Dissatisfied with my assembly line GP, I asked my
> > Cardiologist who his was. He steered me to the right guy!
>
> What does the right guy have to say about the real utility of bromelain
> and salmon oil as used to quell carpal tunnel syndrome?

Since I don't have CTS, we haven't gone there (yet), but on my heart,
kidney and liver disease, as well as my diabetes and high blood pressure,
he's been spot on. Even recognized that my Thai herb, fatalajon
(Andrographis paniculata), was obviously controlling my blood glucose. Not
bad for a milligram guy!

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>> My thoughts exactly and I have a "meeting" with a doctor this week to
>> discuss the use of that type of "hot" food soon afterwards.
>
> What kind of doctor? I'm curious to know what kind of information he
> won't give you. I've never had a doctor discuss anything substantive
> with me regarding diet or nutrution or vitamins. Just the stock quotes
> you'd expect from a doctor who doesn't know or care about any of that.

One is a Pediatrician and their spouse is something else I can't remember
right now... But they know what I do with the stuff so they generally take
a day or two to ask around and come back to me with a real detailed answer.
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In article >,
> wrote:

> gtr > wrote:
> > In article >,
> > > wrote:
> > [ . . . ]
> > > And that's the truth! Dissatisfied with my assembly line GP, I asked my
> > > Cardiologist who his was. He steered me to the right guy!
> >
> > What does the right guy have to say about the real utility of bromelain
> > and salmon oil as used to quell carpal tunnel syndrome?
>
> Since I don't have CTS, we haven't gone there (yet), but on my heart,
> kidney and liver disease, as well as my diabetes and high blood pressure,
> he's been spot on. Even recognized that my Thai herb, fatalajon
> (Andrographis paniculata), was obviously controlling my blood glucose. Not
> bad for a milligram guy!

Not bad at all. Lucky you.

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gtr > wrote:
> > wrote:
> > gtr > wrote:
> > > > wrote:
> > > [ . . . ]
> > > > And that's the truth! Dissatisfied with my assembly line GP, I
> > > > asked my Cardiologist who his was. He steered me to the right guy!
> > >
> > > What does the right guy have to say about the real utility of
> > > bromelain and salmon oil as used to quell carpal tunnel syndrome?
> >
> > Since I don't have CTS, we haven't gone there (yet), but on my heart,
> > kidney and liver disease, as well as my diabetes and high blood
> > pressure, he's been spot on. Even recognized that my Thai herb,
> > fatalajon (Andrographis paniculata), was obviously controlling my blood
> > glucose. Not bad for a milligram guy!
>
> Not bad at all. Lucky you.

Thanks, gtr. BTW I was having severe, frequent, leg cramps. Rather than
recommending a proprietary 'ethical' drug, with all its side effects, he
suggested I take Selenium, Zinc and Magnesium. No more leg cramps!

Happy New Year, Tomodachi!

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Incidentally, if you do get that "hot nasal flash" by having too much
wasabi, immediately breathe through your mouth. The nasal flash should
be gone in a few seconds.

Wasabi and Horse Radish Dangerous in Excess?
 

There are lots of foods that become dangerous in large amounts. The
medical concept of this in food is briefly described he
http://www.ca.uky.edu/agripedia/glossary/gras.htm

Wasabi and Horse Radish Dangerous in Excess?
 

Tippi wrote:
> Incidentally, if you do get that "hot nasal flash" by having too much
> wasabi, immediately breathe through your mouth. The nasal flash should
> be gone in a few seconds.

Right, its all about breath control. If you breathe in through your mouth
while eating wasabi, you won't get the flash burn.

--
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Steve Wertz wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:26:08 -0500, Dan Logcher
> > wrote:
>
>
>>Tippi wrote:
>>
>>>Incidentally, if you do get that "hot nasal flash" by having too much
>>>wasabi, immediately breathe through your mouth. The nasal flash should
>>>be gone in a few seconds.
>>
>>Right, its all about breath control. If you breathe in through your mouth
>>while eating wasabi, you won't get the flash burn.
>
>
> But that takes all the fun out of eating horseradish. I'm not
> into sniffing boiling vinegar, but I love a few good blasts of
> horseradish :-)

I'm not saying not to get the blast, its just a matter of how much before
you're holding your head and whincing.

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