Samartha,

Thank you. The thread you recommend on kneading with rye and
samartha.net give me a lot to think about, and I'll first try the
conventional way.

I never thought for a moment that I could recreate Springfield Polish
rye in a bread machine. My idea was to come as close to it as would
be possible in a bread machine -- which would be a very long way from
recreating it. Actually, I doubt greatly that even making it the
conventional way I will be able to get close to the bread of my
desire.

Tekla

Samartha Deva > wrote in message >...
> Tekla,
>
> frankly - I find your attempt blasphemous - trying to recreate a superb
> polish rye you are referring to with gluten and a bread machine - this
> is really painful!
>
> Aren't you getting little round or square formed products from a bread
> machine and was the original you try to approach in any way similar? You
> probably know the answer.
>
> Considering the fact that a major determining factor to the taste of a
> bread loaf is the crust - how are you going to influence this with your
> bread machine?
>
> In any case, may I suggest that you first get the bread of your desire
> together in the conventional way and once you have something very
> similar to your satisfaction, try to do it with a bread machine, if you
> still have any urge for it.
>
> Now, for your kneading and handling considerations, maybe you want to
> search on Google Groups under newsgroup rec.food.sourdough for the
> phrase "I've been baking 100% Rye Sourdough for about 12 years" on Oct.
> 28 or 29, 2003 which fairly accurately describes the complexities you
> will encounter.
>
> Good luck with your bread machine attempt!
>
> And - keep reporting, so we can learn from it.
>
>
> Samartha
>
>
> Tekla wrote:
> >
> > In Springfield, Vt. in the 40's (and I believe continuing some decades
> > afterward) there were two Polish bakeries that made superb bread: a
> > light sour rye and a dark sour rye, very elastic crumb, sour, well
> > developed flavor.
> >
> > I'm going to try to come as close to it as I can with a bread machine.