Derek wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:58:38 GMT, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
>> Derek wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:33:15 GMT, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
>>>> Derek wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:39:23 GMT, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
>>>>>> Derek wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:36:35 GMT, Dutch > wrote:
>>>>>>>> Derek wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:56:43 GMT, Dutch > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [..]
>>>>>>>>>> I do have some personal experience with cognitive
>>>>>>>>>> dissonance, I experienced it, and at the point when
>>>>>>>>>> I finally consciously confronted the underlying conflict
>>>>>>>>>> I experienced a kind of physical discomfort in the
>>>>>>>>>> brain, a dizziness and a buzzing in my ears, followed
>>>>>>>>>> shortly by a kind of feeling of relief and elevated mental
>>>>>>>>>> clarity. The brain will attempt to punish you to stop you
>>>>>>>>>> from threatening the existing belief.
>>>>>>>>> So, it's established, then, that not only are you a liar
>>>>>>>>> who had to invent a family of kids to use as anecdotal
>>>>>>>>> evidence to get your points accepted, both here and
>>>>>>>>> in alt.abortion, when you try to stop deluding yourself
>>>>>>>>> your brain punishes you to such an extent that it hurts
>>>>>>>>> you ("physical discomfort"), makes you feel dizzy, and
>>>>>>>>> gives you a buzzing sound in your ears.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "I did find deluding myself quite comfortable, after
>>>>>>>>> all who was it hurting?"
>>>>>>>>> Dutch as 'apostate' Mar 17 2002 http://tinyurl.com/cmhpo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Deluding myself felt good."
>>>>>>>>> Dutch Jun 4 2005 http://tinyurl.com/94eq3
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And you wonder why I never take you seriously?
>>>>>>>> Your history is well established.
>>>>>>> As usual, when forced to address your lies and explain
>>>>>>> why I or anyone should take you seriously after learning
>>>>>>> how mentally ill you are, you try to excuse your bad
>>>>>>> behaviour by referring to the alleged bad behaviour of
>>>>>>> others. That's simply not good enough, Ditch. Going
>>>>>>> from that statement you made at the top of this post
>>>>>>> and others you've made over the years concerning your
>>>>>>> deluded state of mind, and how it makes you feel good,
>>>>>>> you're clearly suffering from a serious mental illness and
>>>>>>> can't be taken seriously here on these issues. You're a
>>>>>>> deluded liar who, when faced with the truth, refuses to
>>>>>>> accept that truth because, simply put, it makes your
>>>>>>> brain hurt and makes your ears buzz. haw haw haw.
>>>>>> Cognitive dissonance is not mental illness.
>>>>> He's clearly suffering from a serious mental illness if his
>>>>> mental conflicts and self-confessed delusions cause
>>>>> physical discomfort in the brain, dizziness, and a
>>>>> buzzing in the ears. He's certifiable.
>>>> Cognitive dissonance is not mental illness.
>>> He's a self-confessed delusional who believes his own
>>> brain punishes itself with pain, dizziness, and a buzzing
>>> in the ears when forced to confront conflicts. That's
>>> a very serious mental disorder which must be taken
>>> into account when discussing issues with him, because
>>> rather than face the truth like a normal person does he
>>> deludes himself instead to feel good for fear that his
>>> brain is going to punish him again.
>> WAS.
>
> IS. I've no reason to believe he's cured.

No, WAS. You have no reason to doubt that he has
resolved the conflict, other than your personal animus
and your willful blindness.


>> He resolved the cognitive dissonance by eliminating the delusion.
>
> His quotes show that he's flip-flopped back and forth on
> the issues raised here for years,

His quotes and all of his posting history since about
2001 show that he no longer believes in animal "rights".