On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 03:45:55 -0700, Rupert > wrote:

>On Jul 29, 7:28 am, Kickin' Goober's Faggot Ass
> wrote:
>> On Jul 28, 9:24 am, Rupert > wrote:
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>> > On Jul 29, 1:10 am, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
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>> > > Rupert wrote:
>> > > > On Jul 29, 12:58 am, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
>> > > >> Rupert wrote:
>> > > >>> On Jul 28, 3:22 pm, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
>> > > >>>> Guppy the Corpse Pumper wrote:
>> > > >>>>> On Jul 27, 2:08 pm, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
>> > > >>>>>> On Jul 27, 12:52 pm, shrubkiller > wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>> On Jul 27, 1:42 am, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>>> rupie, you lisping fruit: you assert that (non-human)
>> > > >>>>>>>> animals are due equal moral consideration (compared
>> > > >>>>>>>> with humans). You haven't established that. Get busy,
>> > > >>>>>>>> you lisping utilitarian fruit.
>> > > >>>>>>> Why would anyone have to prove something which is SELF EVIDENT?
>> > > >>>>>> It is not self-evident. In fact, it is more likely self-evidently
>> > > >>>>>> false.
>> > > >>>>> More proof that
>> > > >>>> The proposition of equal moral considerability of
>> > > >>>> animals (with humans) is self evidently false.
>> > > >>> Well, surely if I can be criticized for making an assertion without
>> > > >>> meeting by burden of proof, then this assertion of yours here can
>> > > >>> equally be criticized on that basis.
>> > > >> I'm just following your lead.
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>> > > > I see. Well, that blabber of mine to which I directed you
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>> > So, may I take it that you have no cogent criticisms to make of my
>> > talk?
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>> You're kidding, right?
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>> Goo will dismiss your talk entirely without having read or heard it.
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>> Only Goo is wise.
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>> Only Goo knows.
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>Yes, I've often thought how great it would be to know everything, like
>him. Like the way he knows that all the male activists at Animal
>Liberation, including me, are queer, and the way he knows that the
>mathematical paper I'm working on is rubbish, and the way he knows
>that I'm seething with rage at him as opposed to roaring with
>laughter,

Since the Goober makes up whatever he wants, and never
even tries to back up his absurd claims, he presents what he
considers to be an intelligent character when the reality is that
he's very clearly just a liar.

>and the way he knows that I'm the one who exhibits symptoms
>of psychosis, and so much more. Imagine knowing so much.

"Knowing"? "Much"? When considering dishonesty to the
extreme of the Goobal level, it always leads to the question:

How much of his absurdity is the Goober himself stupid enough
to believe?

Many of the claims he's not actually stupid enough to believe
must be deliberate lies, which probably account for over 50% of
Goo's "arguments". But supposedly he IS stupid enough to believe
some small percentage of the claims he makes, again causing a
person to wonder: Just how stupid Is this Goober? What percentage
of the following idiocy is Goob really stupid enough to believe?:

"When the entity moves from "pre-existence" into the
existence we know, we don't know if that move. . ." - Goo

"EVEN WITH the very best animal welfare conditions one
might provide: they STILL might not be as good as the
"pre-existence" state" - Goo

"Coming into existence is not a benefit to them: it does
not make them better off than before they existed." - Goo

"Life -per se- NEVER is a "benefit" to animals or even
to humans" - Goo

"Dogs NEVER anticipate, nor do cats, or cattle, or
any other animal you've ever encountered." - Goo

"Animals do not experience frustration." - Goo

"No zygotes, animals, people, or any other living thing
benefits from coming into existence. No farm animals
benefit from farming." - Goo

"the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude
than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Goo

"Animals cannot be or feel disappointed." - Goo

"Non human animals experience neither pride nor
disappointment. They don't have the mental ability
to feel either." - Goo

"Darwin, a sentimental person, was projecting. He
saw something that wasn't there. He was, in a way,
hallucinating." - Goo

"Anticipation requires language." - Goo

"No animals anticipate." - Goo

"Dogs, cats, cattle, almost all animals "lower" than
the great apes have no sense of self." - Goo

"They are not aware that they can see. " - Goo

"They are *not* aware that they can smell." - Goo

"Cattle are specifically bred into existence to be
pet food. " - Goo

"I'm right about all of it." - Goo
"I can explain myself in logical and coherent terms" - Goo
"my name and reputation are sterling" - Goo
"Why are you laughing at mental illness" - Goo
"I'm not stupid." - Goo
"I know exactly what I think" - Goo
"I educated the public" - Goo
"I haven't made any absurd claims" - Goo
"You have never identified a single lie I've told." - Goo

>It must be pretty special

In about the most contemptible way possible for
dealing with ngs, but that appears to be deliberate
on Goo's part.

>to be Jonathan Ball.

You might just as well call the Goober "Wilson Woods",
or "****tard", or any of the following:

Citizen
Benfez
Radical Moderate
Bingo
Edward
George
Bill
Fred
Mystery Poster
Merlin the dog
Bob the dog

elvira
Dieter
"Dieter "
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Abner Hale
Roger Whitaker
Apoo
Ted Bell

Jay Santos

Rudy Canoza
Trappist

Leif Erikson
S. Maizlich
SlipperySlope
Eden
Sylvia Stevens
chico chupacabra