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Default skirt-boy: burden of proof not met

Rupert wrote:
> On Jul 30, 1:53 am, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
>> Rupert wrote:
>>> On Jul 29, 1:55 am, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
>>>> Rupert wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 29, 1:10 am, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
>>>>>> Rupert wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 12:58 am, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
>>>>>>>> Rupert wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 4:52 pm, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Rupert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 1:09 pm, Dutch > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rupert wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 8:31 am, Dutch > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shrubkiller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 1:42 am, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rupie, you lisping fruit: you assert that (non-human)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> animals are due equal moral consideration (compared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with humans). You haven't established that. Get busy,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you lisping utilitarian fruit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone have to prove something which is SELF EVIDENT?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****! ................are you ever stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone think that is self-evident when it is so self-evidently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT? Nobody gives animals "equal consideration",
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do.
>>>>>>>>>>>> No you don't, you just think it sounds like the right thing for you to
>>>>>>>>>>>> say. The moment anyone tried to pin you down on it the word "equal"
>>>>>>>>>>>> would immediately lose it's usual meaning and the goalposts on wheels
>>>>>>>>>>>> would appear.
>>>>>>>>>>> I show equal consideration for nonhuman animals, because I blah blah blah
>>>>>>>>>> You contribute to animal death.
>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>> You violate your so-called beliefs.
>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>> Yes - daily.
>>>>> No, I don't
>>>> Yes, you do - daily. You're massively hypocritical.
>>> Yawn.

>> Uh-huh - NOT. You're still defensive, and with good
>> reason.

>
> "Defensive"? Don't see that.


Of course you'd say that.


> I don't see any sensible reason why you would care whether I'm a
> hypocrite.


Because it thoroughly undercuts your claim that animals
have "rights". You don't really believe they do; nor
do you believe they are due equal moral consideration,
because you don't extend it to them yourself.