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Default skirt-boy: burden of proof not met

On Jul 29, 1:55 am, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
> Rupert wrote:
> > On Jul 29, 1:10 am, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
> >> Rupert wrote:
> >>> On Jul 29, 12:58 am, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
> >>>> Rupert wrote:
> >>>>> On Jul 28, 4:52 pm, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
> >>>>>> Rupert wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jul 28, 1:09 pm, Dutch > wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Rupert wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 8:31 am, Dutch > wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> shrubkiller wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 27, 1:42 am, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rupie, you lisping fruit: you assert that (non-human)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> animals are due equal moral consideration (compared
> >>>>>>>>>>>> with humans). You haven't established that. Get busy,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> you lisping utilitarian fruit.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone have to prove something which is SELF EVIDENT?
> >>>>>>>>>>> ****! ................are you ever stupid.
> >>>>>>>>>> Why would anyone think that is self-evident when it is so self-evidently
> >>>>>>>>>> NOT? Nobody gives animals "equal consideration",
> >>>>>>>>> I do.
> >>>>>>>> No you don't, you just think it sounds like the right thing for you to
> >>>>>>>> say. The moment anyone tried to pin you down on it the word "equal"
> >>>>>>>> would immediately lose it's usual meaning and the goalposts on wheels
> >>>>>>>> would appear.
> >>>>>>> I show equal consideration for nonhuman animals, because I blah blah blah
> >>>>>> You contribute to animal death.
> >>>>> Yes.
> >>>> You violate your so-called beliefs.
> >>> No.
> >> Yes - daily.

>
> > No, I don't

>
> Yes, you do - daily. You're massively hypocritical.


Yawn.

Okay, so you believe - let's assume - that in the course of my
discussions on this newsgroup I've verbally committed myself to
propositions which entail that what I am doing is morally wrong. I
find your attempts to argue that point absolutely pitiful, but you're
convinced that you've demonstrated it beyond all reasonable doubt. So
you think you've demonstrated that I'm a hypocrite, and I think that
this, like pretty much everything you say, is a joke. Okay. Well,
we've certainly got that much established.

Do you have any desire to move forward from there? Or will you be
content to endlessly repeat the unargued assertion - which I think is
a joke and will be recognized by such by any reasonable person - that
you've shown that I'm a hypocrite, for all eternity? Supposing I were
a hypocrite, what of it, why would you or anyone else except me care?
Do you have no desire to discuss more interesting topics?