Hey you two - cut it out! Before you kill each other, please note that
the topic is actually pretty interesting and perhaps some people here
would like to discuss it, and not get involved in your little flame
war!

I enjoyed reading this because I have been buying organic produce for
years, and I am always getting crap from my husband about the added
cost. I've felt, however, that the food just TASTES BETTER. And
although I didn't have any of the science behind it (thank you poster
D.) I certainly felt in the back of my mind that it was more
nutritious. Glad to see that this was validated.

I'm wondering, does anyone else here know if professional chefs feel
the same way? Do any fine restaurants use organic produce because it
tastes better and now appears to actually be better for you?

Thanks< B.T.



On Jul 21, 2:30 pm, "D." > wrote:
> Mark, on a number of occasions I have caught your ignorance of a
> matter, but noted it personally and privately only. I never brought
> it
> out in the open. Perhaps in the future, I'll take you up on the
> challenge.
> You'll note that I have posted, in full, the article from the site.
> There is not a spam element when doing this (it is not a snippet with
> a link to a full article); there is no advertising in my post, or any
> advertising on the site (I chose not to go with Google mini-ads). All
> my affiliations are listed in the author's biosketch, and I do not
> sell or have any commercial affiliation with organic produce (today's
> subject), or curcumin (which you mention below.) On occasion, I will
> mention a product that I am affiliated with, and this is clearly
> presented in the text. That only happens in about one out of ten or
> twelve posts.
>
> My site reports on research Mark, not the ramblings of a pseudo-
> scientific mind such as yours. As stated on the site, which discusses
> both pharmaceuticals as well as alternative products (both into
> either
> the Sham or Wham category), the site does not offer medical advice,
> but only research reports. Readers are urged to see their doctor.
> Curcumin has no ill effects at all on its own - after all, its a
> biochemical ingredient of curry, eaten for a thousand years. But
> interactions with other herbs and medicines is another subject
> entirely -- in fact, the topic of a future Sham vs. Wham, which
> discusses the interaction of "food" with "pharmaceuticals" and how
> the choice of the right foods with certain drugs can amplify and
> improve the results, leading to less dosage needed, etc.
>
> So, like so many of your posts, you've got the right idea, but you're
> distorting and amplifying it by your own viewpoint.
>
> D.
>
> On Jul 21, 1:23 pm, Mark Thorson > wrote:
>
> > "D." wrote:
>
> > > Here's today's post from "Sham vs. Wham: The Health Insider", at
> > >http://shamwham.blogspot.com/
>
> > This spammer is propagating terrible
> > misinformation on his commercial website.
> > For example, in his recent article on
> > curcumin (substance from curry) he recommends
> > it as a dietary supplement without mentioning
> > its interactions with pharmaceutical drugs.
> > It inhibits the two most important drug-metabolizing
> > and drug-transporting enzymes (CYP3A4 and P-gp)
> > so it can increase the potency of drugs you may
> > be taking. This could have severe consequences
> > if you are taking a drug with a low therapeutic
> > index (a low difference between an effective
> > dose and a toxic dose).
>
> > Of course he won't warn you about that.
> > It would offend potential advertisers.
> > You won't get straight, accurate information
> > from this spammer because commercial interests
> > are slanting his articles.