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Default TN: 1982 Bordeaux at Park Ave Cafe

On Apr 22, 10:56 am, DaleW > wrote:
> On Apr 20, 5:02?pm, Bi!! > wrote:
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> > On Apr 20, 3:29?pm, DaleW > wrote:

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> > > Matt Richman called for an offline of 1982s, I was happy that he aimed
> > > midlevel, as I wouldn't have been able to come up with an entrant if
> > > he was going for the Firsts, LLC, P-lalande, etc. We had a great
> > > lineup of respected Bordeaux. Arv Rao arranged for dinner at the Park
> > > Avenue Cafe, they did a nice job. I enjoyed my cavatelli with black
> > > truffle & mushrooms, and my main course of braised shortribs and filet
> > > mignon. Sides were especially good- French fries with truffle mayo,
> > > sauteed wild mushrooms, creamed potatoes, asparagus. PAC does no
> > > corkage if not on their list.

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> > > The starters:

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> > > NV Henriot "Souverain" Champagne
> > > Warm apple fruit, very bready. Fairly full-bodied, but with zippy
> > > acidity, I like a lot. A-/B+

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> > > Mystery white starter
> > > Oak overlying sweet apple fruit, this is in a Bordeaux-shaped bottle
> > > and I ask Matt if he switched bottles, as I'm thinking Chardonnay.
> > > Nope, it's the 2003 Vergelegen (Stellenbosch), which Matt says is
> > > blend of white Bdx varietals (I'd guess heavily weighted towards
> > > Semillon). A bit too oaky for me, but nice fruit B/B-

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> > > On to the reds, most in flights of 2 (as I've noted before, I'm not a
> > > consistent grader, probably all of these but 1 would have gotten an A
> > > or A- at my dinner table, but I spread it out to show the mostly
> > > minute differences in how much I liked):

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> > > 1982 Ch. Pavie (St Emilion)
> > > I liked this a bit more from a past bottle, this is herby with some
> > > still raspy tannins. Nice Bordeaux earth, but a bit underripe feeling
> > > (I hadn't felt that before) B-

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> > > 1982 Ch. Le Bon Pasteur (Pomerol)
> > > Not as lush as say the '90, but pretty medium-bodied Pomerol with
> > > sweet black plum fruit and a little cocoa. B+

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> > > We voted on each flight, LBP carried this one 9-2

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> > > 1982 Ch. Magdelaine (St Emilion)
> > > A little funky at first, but settles in nicely. More acidity than most
> > > wines tonight, I found this rather elegant. Red plum and currant
> > > fruit, tobacco and cedar, fine length. A-

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> > > 1982 Ch. Figeac (St Emilion)
> > > Also good acidity, very bright and young. Red fruit with just a
> > > (Pleasant) hint of green pepper, good length, very nice. B+/A-

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> > > Figeac edges Magdelaine, 6-5

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> > > 1982 Ch. Sociando Mallet (Haut-Medoc)
> > > Also a touch of initial funkiness (though this one was in decanter a
> > > while due to a cork crumble), but finds its stride. A little more
> > > mature than the mag we had last year, but not at all old. Dark brambly
> > > sweet fruit, cigarbox, a bit of herbs and smoke. A-

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> > > 1982 Ch. Talbot (St Julien)
> > > Rich creamy texture, a touch of Cordier funk, sweet fruit, nice wine
> > > but not as complex as the stars. Thought it very Merlot for a
> > > traditional Medoc estate. This is one 1982 I like a bit less than its
> > > 1986 counterpart. B+

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> > > SM by a hair, 6-5

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> > > 1982 Ch.Leoville Barton (St Emilion)
> > > Big and rich, great length. Deep dark fruit, complex aromas of forest
> > > floor and cigarbox, best showing I've seen of this. A

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> > > 1982 Ch. Leoville Poyferre (St Emilion)
> > > Lovely sweet cassis fruit, tobacco, earth. Nice length. A-

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> > > Barton ahead 7-4

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> > > 1982 Ch. Pichon Baron (Pauillac)
> > > Nose of cocoa and earth, big and dense on the palate, young- I mean
> > > young. Lovely bruiser of a wine. A

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> > > 1982 Ch. Grand Puy Lacoste (Pauillac)
> > > Sweet fruit, nice pencil shaving notes, just not as long as its
> > > flightmates. Could easily be WOTN with other lineups. B/B+

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> > > 1982 Ch. Lynch-Bages (Pauillac)
> > > Good nose of earth and cedar, lovely blackcurrant fruit, fresh and
> > > young.
> > > A-

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> > > In 3 way vote Lynch Bages got 6, the Baron 4, and GPL 1.

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> > > 1982 Martinez Vintage Port
> > > Decanted before dinner, an ok Port from a year few declared. Lighter
> > > body and texture, warm red fruit, moderate sweetness. B

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> > > Top vote getters (3,2,1 system) for WOTN were Leoville Barton (21
> > > votes), Lynch Bages (15 votes), Leoville Poyferre (12 votes), and
> > > Pichon Baron (11 votes).

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> > > Excellent lineup, nice group of winegeeks, good food, fun night.
> > > Thanks to Matt and Arv for their work.

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> > > Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent
> > > wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't
> > > drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no
> > > promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.

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> > Dale,
> > ? If you ever do something like this again let me know at least 8
> > hours in advance and I'll be there!!!!
> > The top wines are all of my favorites from the vintage.- Hide quoted text -

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> Would love to have you join us, but alas this is probably the last '82
> horizontal I'll ever attend. This was my last Magdelaine (that and
> Port were my contributions); all I have left is couple of lesser wines
> like Nenin, Gloria, etc. While '82s have always carried premium, with
> recent runups in Bdx pricing even the midlevel wines are now out of my
> league. None of the wines I liked are available for less than $170 - I
> just can't justify that.
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> But if you come to NY metro area, I'll try to sell you on the virtues
> of the '83s.
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> It's sad to me that this was probably last '82 tasting I'll ever go
> to, as the Gloria (a lesser wine, but very nice in '82, though fading
> now) was my epiphany wine, and what got me started really paying
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Certainly I will contact you prior to my next trip to NYC. BTW,
Gloria has always been a favorite of mine.