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> > > lid wrote:
> > > > what about the plants rights?
> > > > Ofcourse they need rights and RESPECT!
> > >
> > > Okay then. That's what I thought.
> > >
> > > > We can't live without diversity!
> > >
> > > I enjoy diversity. I love beef, pork, chicken, rabbit, fish.... pretty
> > > much all traditionally eaten meats.
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No.... the way you think is only your own profit
just like most people do!!
you destroy diversity, responsible for that to!
you do not think further than what you eat
you see only what's on your dish
you even do not known what's happend in this world
what happens with animal sufferings over the whole world and do not even care at all!
You just think on yourself
especially you just has looked to all the others and think "look how smart I'm"
or
"look how funny I'm"
BTW we knows better, we have better things to do and there is much more than meat only!
There are even better products than meat! And healthy!
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> > >
> > > > But it's not the same as animals! ANd you knows that very well!
> > >
> > > They are both living things and they both are used by other species as
> > > food.
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that's correct
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> > >
> > > > So, you better ask "Do animals have rights"?
> > >
> > > The right to be grilled to medium rare and served with garlic butter
> > > and a nice red wine.
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you're reaction here is pathetic (or is it funny?)
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> > >
> > > > Animals can't speak but just like we, they all want to live!
> > >
> > > And plants aren't genetically wired to live and survive? Their purpose
> > > is to procreate, just like animals. My guess is that they want to
live.
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every life forms want to live even you!
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> > >
> > > > At some point they are even smarter than we!
> > >
> > > Good for them. Then they will be able to avoid my snares and my
hunting
> > > efforts and avoid being domesticated fand raised for food. But the
less
> > > smarter ones that don't get away will still taste as good as the smart
> > > ones.
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first of all, you don't live in a world 2000 years ago!
we live now , we do not have the need anymore to killed millions animals everyday
to give them stress, pain, sickness experiment and killing!
second fight with equal weapons, by hand! We shall see who's faster, smarter and stronger...
third: you writing bullshit
fourth: please give me something to argue? not stupid answers please.
we live almost in the year 2007!
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> > >
> > > > SO,
> > > > they need it to have rights!
> > >
> > > They have the same rights as any prey animal. Or any animal for that
> > > matter. We all can succumb to death from outside forces eventually,
> > > whether as prey or accidentally or otherwise. Same rights.
> > >
> > > > And I hope very fast!
> > > >
> > > > BTW
> > > > Every minute we grow with about 147 people in this world, EVERY
MINUTE MAN!!!
> > >
> > > Oh well. I can't control that and neither can you. But nature has a
way
> > > of culling the herd and that usually means the weakest, the stupidest
> > > or the sick and the nutritionally depleted idiots who only eat a
> > > nutritionally poor vegan diet. By eating meat, I am strengthening the
> > > possibility of my families short term and long term survival.
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that's exactly the problem now, we do not live side by side with nature
we only destroy that system!
to hard 4 ye? ;o)
and before you think i must confessed
i'm not a doom-thinking person at all nor a negative one!
i'm only a realist, sorry
BTW Al Gore is also a realist... and his movie is not new to me!
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> > >
> > > > Shall we all still eating animal-products over 20 years? I don't
think so!
> > >
> > > My family will. If we have to raise and butcher them ourselves.
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i think your whole family shall be suffering on sickness, cholesterol....
or other avoiding sickness by then....
oh yeah by then they make all kind of expensive pills isn't it?
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> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > They are not here for suffering!
> > >
> > > Not to worry. Most animal husbanders agree with you and provide their
> > > animals with good quality creature comforts and dispatch them as
> > > quickly and as humanely as possible. And most hunters want a god quick
> > > clean kill so as to not lose the animal or have to waste time and lose
> > > meat quality as the animal slowly dies.
> > >
> > > The goal is quality meat, and that requires a humane death. Which is
> > > way more consideration given than in nature when animals kill other
> > > animals, now that is brutal stuff. Wolves, larger cats and other
> > > predators have been known for starting to eat the larger prey (like
> > > water buffalo, dear, elk, etc.) from the rump forward before they are
> > > even dead.
> > >
> > > TC
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that's NOT correct and you know it!
Still being argued only for your own profits!
I've seen many animals killed by hunters or whatever, i know what I've seen!
and so many other people are agree with me...
people only think on it's own profit, that's all man!
I can show you hours of crueality, there are so many unhuman movies
off kkilling and suffering animals some of them makes you really sick for weeks!!!
What you typed here is bullshit and you know t!
just look at peta.tv for example, and see what I mean!
If you still feel nothing? You do not have a good-heart!
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<plonk!> is that a sound in your head??? ;o))
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