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Ronald 'More-More' Moshki wrote:
> wrote:
> > nemo wrote:
> > > > wrote in message
> > > oups.com...
> > > > wha....?
> > > >
> > > > Ronald 'More-More' Moshki wrote:
> > > > > thunder-lice.
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > lid wrote:
> > > > > > > what about the plants rights?
> > > > > > > Ofcourse they need rights and RESPECT!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Okay then. That's what I thought.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > We can't live without diversity!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I enjoy diversity. I love beef, pork, chicken, rabbit, fish.... pretty
> > > > > > much all traditionally eaten meats.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > But it's not the same as animals! ANd you knows that very well!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They are both living things and they both are used by other species as
> > > > > > food.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, you better ask "Do animals have rights"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The right to be grilled to medium rare and served with garlic butter
> > > > > > and a nice red wine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Animals can't speak but just like we, they all want to live!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And plants aren't genetically wired to live and survive? Their purpose
> > > > > > is to procreate, just like animals. My guess is that they want to
> > > live.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > At some point they are even smarter than we!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good for them. Then they will be able to avoid my snares and my
> > > hunting
> > > > > > efforts and avoid being domesticated fand raised for food. But the
> > > less
> > > > > > smarter ones that don't get away will still taste as good as the smart
> > > > > > ones.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > SO,
> > > > > > > they need it to have rights!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They have the same rights as any prey animal. Or any animal for that
> > > > > > matter. We all can succumb to death from outside forces eventually,
> > > > > > whether as prey or accidentally or otherwise. Same rights.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > And I hope very fast!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BTW
> > > > > > > Every minute we grow with about 147 people in this world, EVERY
> > > MINUTE MAN!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh well. I can't control that and neither can you. But nature has a
> > > way
> > > > > > of culling the herd and that usually means the weakest, the stupidest
> > > > > > or the sick and the nutritionally depleted idiots who only eat a
> > > > > > nutritionally poor vegan diet. By eating meat, I am strengthening the
> > > > > > possibility of my families short term and long term survival.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Shall we all still eating animal-products over 20 years? I don't
> > > think so!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My family will. If we have to raise and butcher them ourselves.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They are not here for suffering!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not to worry. Most animal husbanders agree with you and provide their
> > > > > > animals with good quality creature comforts and dispatch them as
> > > > > > quickly and as humanely as possible. And most hunters want a god quick
> > > > > > clean kill so as to not lose the animal or have to waste time and lose
> > > > > > meat quality as the animal slowly dies.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The goal is quality meat, and that requires a humane death. Which is
> > > > > > way more consideration given than in nature when animals kill other
> > > > > > animals, now that is brutal stuff. Wolves, larger cats and other
> > > > > > predators have been known for starting to eat the larger prey (like
> > > > > > water buffalo, dear, elk, etc.) from the rump forward before they are
> > > > > > even dead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TC
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > > <plonk!>
> >
> > What an eloquent argument.
> >
> > TC
>
> thunder's views are ro repugnant that no one is gonna debate them--
> ---waste of time.

In the absence of a credible argument silence reigns.

TC