Dave,

There should be no problem added pectic enzyme now. You will need to
add another fining agent -- I'd give the pectic a week and then a
fining agent. The first racking from primary to secondary is time
(and SG) dependent but subsequent rackings plus bottling are not
negatively affected by waiting longer.

If you were sweetening the wine I'd be concerned about additional
sorbate -- I've no experience with high dosages and can't recall
anything I've read of it. But since it's a pinot noir I assume you're
finishing dry. I suspect the kits add it just to cover for people who
don't let the wine ferment completely.

Good luck!

Bryan


On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:00:43 -0500, Dave Allison
> wrote:

>Thanks, Byran for the input. I think pectic enzyme is the answer, see my
>other posting where I explain my errors. sigh.
>Do you think I could add it now even after Sorbate and Fining Agent is
>in the wine? hmm?
>DAve
>
>Jake Speed wrote:
>> Did you follow the directions *exactly*? I've got a WineXpert pinot
>> going -- at what would normally be the second racking, it says to add
>> sulfite/sorbate & fining agent, stirring up sediment, but DO NOT rack.
>> According to directions this is required for the wine to clear.
>>
>> My usual advice is to try pectic enzyme -- if it doesn't help it
>> doesn't hurt. Also, a recent post suggested egg whites for fining red
>> wines. That would be my suggestion in another month.
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:53:51 -0500, Dave Allison
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, all.
>>> Daily reader of this NG, have learned a lot from pro's and newbies. Here
>>> is my current situation:
>>> (well, first, this is my 8th wine kit, and I've also done many Jack
>>> Keller based-recipes as well as the kits, have bottled over 400 bottles,
>>> so I'm kinda new, but not first time at this)
>>>
>>> Maybe you get what you pay for... I purchased the above wine kit for a
>>> real bargain, compared to WinExpert kits, this was real cheap. As I
>>> moved this kit along, I got to the final stage - clarifying, and well,
>>> it's not clarifying. The instructions says, "filter it", which I don't
>>> have a filter machine and don't plan on purchasing one for this kit. I
>>> experimented with a coffee filter - no change to the clarity. I've never
>>> had a wine not clear. It makes 23L (6 gallons), so here is what I've
>>> done, any other suggestions are welcome!
>>>
>>> I decided to be patient and let it sit longer in the carboy (this kit is
>>> a 4 week kit and ready to drink when bottled, they say).
>>>
>>> However, the kit didn't fill my carboy - yes, I followed all
>>> instructions to the letter! - , so I split into two 3 gallon carboys and
>>> topped up one with 4 1/2 bottles of Pinot Noir (Rex Goliath 47 Pound
>>> Rooster, since I like this)My rationale was, experiment with one as is,
>>> and one topped up with good wine. That means one 3 gallon carboy is
>>> almost 30% added wine. So now I have both ready for aging.
>>>
>>> I added 1/4 Tsp of Potassium Meta, and 1 Tsp of Carbonite to each. Mixed
>>> both well and added airlock to each. My plan is to let it sit another
>>> month and see if it has cleared up. If not, another month of wait. Then
>>> decide if another clearing agent might help.
>>>
>>> Anyone with experience on this wine kit? I was amazed how the
>>> instructions were lacking much info, luckily I have done many kits, so
>>> checked WinExpert instructions to ensure I was doing it right.
>>>
>>> Ken Ridge Connoisseur Pinot Noir - out of Canada. Did I get what I paid
>>> for? smile. I think it was $47 US.
>>>
>>> DAve