<dh@.> wrote in message ...
> On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 20:47:29 +0100, "pearl" > wrote:
>
> ><dh@.> wrote in message ...
> >> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:59:00 +0100, "pearl" > wrote:
> >>
> >> ><dh@.> wrote in message ...
> >> >> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:19:29 +0100, "pearl" > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> ><dh@.> wrote in message ...
> >> >> >> On 2 Sep 2006 11:47:30 -0700, "pearl" > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ><dh@.> wrote in message
> >> >> >> .. .
> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:50:33 +0100, "pearl" > wrote:
> >> >> ><..>
> >> >> >> >> >"Regrettably, there probably are some small animal deaths. However,
> >> >> >> >> >the number of deaths in a mile of rice harvesting pales in comparison to
> >> >> >> >> >the road kill on a mile of highway.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> That's an obvious lie, and anyone who's aware that animals don't
> >> >> >> >> live on asphalt should be able to understand why.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Where's the obvious lie? Animals traverse highways, and numerous
> >> >> >> >vehicles are constantly speeding along them.., but animals can easily
> >> >> >> >move out of the way of slow machinery making one pass in the field.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Even if somehow, incredibly, no animals were killed by harvesters:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/gcpzk
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> the environment they had depended on for shelter from predators is
> >> >> >> removed and predators kill them because they have nowhere left
> >> >> >> to hide.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Where are all 'these' frogs coming from, dh@?
> >> >>
> >> >> Upstream.
> >> >
> >> >Yeah... like in Texas flowing streams are swarming with frogs .. Rotfl!
> >>
> >> Some are.
> >
> >There may be quite a few along the banks, and in stiller, shallow water..
>
> They might be bumping into each other in Texas. You don't know.
>
> >> Here's something else you can't comprehend: there are
> >> sometimes tadpoles too. Something else you won't be able to grasp:
> >> there is often still water behind the flood gates where eggs are laid
> >> and tadpoles hatch and live, and when the gate is opened the eggs
> >> and tadpoles are swept along with the water.
> >
> >Sure.. there are hundreds of thousands of eggs and tadpoles -right there-.
>
> I'm not clinging to any number like you appear to be. A significant
> amount is what I get from diderot's account, and I don't really care
> what the actual estimated number are.

That 'significant amount' was hundreds of thousands per hectare.

> >(Describe these 'flood gates', dh@. How do they operate exactly?)

No?

> >And, sadly for you, frogspawn and young tadpoles cling to plants:
>
> Sometimes to things that float, or get washed loose by current.

Evidence?

> . . .
> >> >> Since you don't believe there are a significant number of cds involved
> >> >> with crop production, which deaths do you think you're referring to, have
> >> >> you any idea?
> >> >
> >> >Of course.
> >>
> >> Which ones?
> >
> >The billions of livestock killed;
>
> They should all be provided with decent lives and humane deaths,
> and then it would be okay.

No. Even if that happened, it would *not* be ok.

> >the wildlife directly slaughtered as 'predators', 'competitors', and 'pests';
>
> They need to go anyway, livestock or not.

'They' being wildlife.

> >the collateral deaths in 30 million hectares of feed..
>
> If we don't have to worry about deaths in rice fields, we sure don't
> have to worry any about that.

That's 30 million hectares (in the US) that needn't be farmed.