On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 20:47:29 +0100, "pearl" > wrote:

><dh@.> wrote in message ...
>> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006 21:59:00 +0100, "pearl" > wrote:
>>
>> ><dh@.> wrote in message ...
>> >> On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 13:19:29 +0100, "pearl" > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> ><dh@.> wrote in message ...
>> >> >> On 2 Sep 2006 11:47:30 -0700, "pearl" > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ><dh@.> wrote in message
>> >> >> .. .
>> >> >> >> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:50:33 +0100, "pearl" > wrote:
>> >> ><..>
>> >> >> >> >"Regrettably, there probably are some small animal deaths. However,
>> >> >> >> >the number of deaths in a mile of rice harvesting pales in comparison to
>> >> >> >> >the road kill on a mile of highway.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> That's an obvious lie, and anyone who's aware that animals don't
>> >> >> >> live on asphalt should be able to understand why.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Where's the obvious lie? Animals traverse highways, and numerous
>> >> >> >vehicles are constantly speeding along them.., but animals can easily
>> >> >> >move out of the way of slow machinery making one pass in the field.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Even if somehow, incredibly, no animals were killed by harvesters:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/gcpzk
>> >> >>
>> >> >> the environment they had depended on for shelter from predators is
>> >> >> removed and predators kill them because they have nowhere left
>> >> >> to hide.
>> >> >
>> >> >Where are all 'these' frogs coming from, dh@?
>> >>
>> >> Upstream.
>> >
>> >Yeah... like in Texas flowing streams are swarming with frogs .. Rotfl!
>>
>> Some are.
>
>There may be quite a few along the banks, and in stiller, shallow water..

They might be bumping into each other in Texas. You don't know.

>> Here's something else you can't comprehend: there are
>> sometimes tadpoles too. Something else you won't be able to grasp:
>> there is often still water behind the flood gates where eggs are laid
>> and tadpoles hatch and live, and when the gate is opened the eggs
>> and tadpoles are swept along with the water.
>
>Sure.. there are hundreds of thousands of eggs and tadpoles -right there-.

I'm not clinging to any number like you appear to be. A significant
amount is what I get from diderot's account, and I don't really care
what the actual estimated number are.

>(Describe these 'flood gates', dh@. How do they operate exactly?)
>
>And, sadly for you, frogspawn and young tadpoles cling to plants:

Sometimes to things that float, or get washed loose by current.

.. . .
>> >> Since you don't believe there are a significant number of cds involved
>> >> with crop production, which deaths do you think you're referring to, have
>> >> you any idea?
>> >
>> >Of course.
>>
>> Which ones?
>
>The billions of livestock killed;

They should all be provided with decent lives and humane deaths,
and then it would be okay.

>the wildlife directly slaughtered as 'predators', 'competitors', and 'pests';

They need to go anyway, livestock or not.

>the collateral deaths in 30 million hectares of feed..

If we don't have to worry about deaths in rice fields, we sure don't
have to worry any about that.