On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:35:02 +0100, brother > wrote:
>dh@. wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:13:25 +0100, brother > wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>> __________________________________________________ __________
>>>> From: diderot >
>>>> Subject: collateral included deaths in organic rice production [faq]
>>>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:21:44 EDT
>>>> Newsgroups: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animal s,rec.food.veg
>>>> Message-ID: >
>>>>
>>> This is seven year old uncorroborated hearsay
>>
>> It's first hand observation from a rice farmer.
>
>It's the intellectual equivalent of using the evidence from somebody you
>met at a bar.
>
>He says he's driven a tractor, thousands of miles. - I can believe that!
>
>Then he says "We have organic as well as conventional farms". Ask
>yourself; 'Who is he referring to when he says "we"?'For all I know he
>could be referring to the population of Texas.
"the facts, data, assumptions and conclusions, while developed
on two organic rice farms (900 and 160 acres) and one 'conventional'
rice farm of 1340 acres in colorado county, texas" - diderot
If you think the "population of Texas" only has two organic rice
farms and one conventional rice farm in the whole state, you're
incredibly "naive" to say the very least, but for your sake (though
none of the readers' sake) let's hope you're being deliberately
dishonest about that stupid suggestion.
>Do you REALLY think that there are more than 5 amphibians in every
>square FOOT of rice?
Paste the quote. I believe he was referring to eggs, tadpoles,
and adults. There may be thousands of eggs in one square foot,
and a hundred tadpoles in another...averaging out to 5 or more in
the big picture.
>It's a joke that you and other fools have fallen for.
He sells organic rice to vegans. Why would he present info like
that to vegans, if he wasn't confident that they would be too stupid
to appreciate the reality of it even if he did? Obviously he was well
aware that they are, almost certainly from his own personal experience
with them. And now from our own personal experience with them in
these ngs we can see that too. Duh.
>There are animal deaths in rice production, but there is no mystical
>"green waterfall".
How many deaths do you think there are, and WHY should anyone
take your estimate over that of a rice farmer???