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Old 13-08-2006, 08:23 PM posted to alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,
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pearl wrote:

Every objection you had is exposed as a sham.

My objections stand.

Every objection you had is

Fully sustained. Karen's diddling with her bird wasn't for any
commercial or reproductive purpose. She saw it as "sweet" and gets off
on the idea that the bird liked her more than it liked other birds.

Cattle farmers aren't wanking bulls for pleasure.

They're certainly giving the bulls 'pleasure'. Go on - try denying it.

They're not engaged in the pursuit of their own OR the bulls' pleasure,


not engaged in their own or the bulls' pleasure. It's applesranges to
compare their jobs to Karen's perversion.