Hello Usual Suspect. I know who you are now.

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>>>>>>>William wrote:
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>>>>>>>>I wasn't talking about Lesley. I was talking about Pearl,
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>>>>>>>That's lesley, you dummy. "pearl" is her ****witted pseudonym.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sorry. I didn't know that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>She is anything but a pearl; more like a
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>jagged piece of broken glass from a cheap bottle of beer.
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>>>>>>yawn
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>>>>>>>>and having an open mind about her beliefs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You don't really mean to have an open mind about them, dumb-ass. What you
>>>>>>>mean is to be predisposed to accept them because they're new-age kooky.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>Apart from a few items on that list I'm open-minded the rest and
>>>>>>believe some of them.
>>>>>
>>>>>Exactly. You are predisposed to accepting at face value any new-age kooky
>>>>>bullshit that appears to go against common sense, and that plays to your
>>>>>perverse need to be "different". You misinterpret this as "open-mindedness".
>>>>>It isn't
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I agree - it isn't "open-mindedness." Being open-minded is all about being
>>>>receptive of others' ideas and beliefs.
>>>
>>>No, that is *NOT* what being open-minded is
>>
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>> Yes it is.
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>> [snip crap]
>
That was the definition of open-mindedness you cut away, and
it fits perfectly with mine. Is that why you cut it? ;-)

o·pen-mind·ed
adj.
Having or showing receptiveness to new and different ideas or the opinions of others.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/open-minded

"Being open-minded is all about being receptive of others' ideas and beliefs."

> No, it isn't.
>
Yes it is.

>>
>> "Being open-minded is all about being receptive of others' ideas and beliefs."
>
> Wrong. That dictionary definition is simply bullshit.

It's the correct definition, and it's the definition I used.

> Being *receptive* is not being open minded, you ****ing idiot; it's being
> partisan.
>
>
>>>>If born liars exist
>>>
>>>lesley is one.
>>
>>
>> No. Ispe Dixit knows her well and told me ages ago that she's a reliable
>> expert on nutrition and alternative animal-friendly treatments.
>
> Derek was incorrect about that
>
Incorrect about what? I'm telling you what Ipse Dixit told me. He wrote me an email.

>>>>>>> "zero point field" (GUFFAW!)
>>>>>>> "veganism"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've been vegan for over two years now and doing great by it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "inner earth beings"
>>>>>>> "hollow earth"
>>>>>>> that goofy patent for a MANUFACTURED globe
>>>>>>> helium-inflated number(s) for feed:beef
>>>>>>> rain forest destruction
>>>>>>> Brazil's exports (based on *Argentina's* trade)
>>>>>>> Stolen French flying saucer
>>>>>>> Zapper
>>>>>>> Foot massage (as cure-all)
>>>>>>> Astrology
>>>>>>> Numerology
>>>>>>> Alien abduction
cut
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I very much doubt that.
>>>>>
>>>>>I thought you were open minded?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You can doubt things while being open-minded about them.
>>>
>>>You're not being honestly open-minded about it.
>>>
>>
>> Yes I am,
>
> No, you aren't.
>
> Her endorsement of it was correctly inferred from her failure to state her
> opposition to it following her statement of support for someone (Karen Winter) who
> openly endorses it. lesley was asked repeatedly if she wanted to distance herself
> from Karen on at least that one issue, and she refused to do so. That is implicit
> support for it.
>
No. Read Pearl's post. "To repeat- I think it is a perversion, and if it is contrary
to an animals'
instinct and requires conditioning or abuse, I _strongly_ condemn it." What more do
you want?
She strongly condemns it and thinks it's a perversion. That's one item I've taken off
that list,
Usual Suspect. I wonder how many others are there that shouldn't be.
>
>>>>>>> Leprechauns
>>>>>>> Channeling
>>>>>>> Polar fountains
>>>>>>> Sun gazing
>>>>>>> Chemtrails
>>>>>>> AIDS and ebola conspiracy theory
>>>>>>> Crop circles
>>>>>>> sexually aroused by violent ex-convicts
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yeah right.
>>>>>
>>>>>She was married to a ****ing British skinhead, you idiot! The guy was an
>>>>>ex-convict. He was a skinhead when she hooked up with him. That's *why* she
>>>>>got together with him: she was aroused by it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You can't possibly know all that. Soryy, but I don't believe you.
>>>
>>>I do know all of it.
>>
>>
>> Then you should be quiet and stop all your nonsense.
>>
>> cut
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> Why did you cut, you chickenshit closed-minded ****wit?
>
> <restore>
>
> She went out of town, and he got into her computer and started posting, right here
> in this newsgroup - a lot of wild, violence-tinged stuff. He found and began
> posting in some skinhead-oriented groups as well. Here is his post:
> http://tinyurl.com/p6lp8. He was using her computer and her pseudonym at that
> time, "lilweed".
>
> </restore>
>
> Leave it in shitbag. Leave it in as a testament to your closed-mindedness.
>
I've no comment to make on her personal life because 1, I don't
know all the facts. 2, I don't want to know them. 3, you sure as hell
don't know them. 4, It's none of our business. 5, Her personal life
has no bearing on her expertise in vegan nutrition and alternative
medicine.

>>>>>As for all the rest, they're all weird beliefs that fly in the face of logic and
>>>>>common sense and science, and that's *why* you believe in them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I see the emphasis you put on 'why', and I disagree with those
>>>>reasons. I'm not a vegan just because it flies in the face of
>>>>common sense.
>>>
>>>You're a "vegan" (quotes of derision) because it feeds your need to be
>>>"different".
>>
>>
>> No, it's a consequence of the principles I hold regarding the treatment
>> of animals.
>
> No, it's based on your wish to try to be distinctive, to be "different".
>
You're welcome to believe whatever you want, but always remember
that you're not in a position to tell me what I believe.
>
>>> You're an unaccomplished nobody loser,
>>
>>
>> Enough of the insults.
>
> No. You are asking for them.
>
Well now I'm asking you to stop them, please.
>
>>> and you're one among millions. Your ego
>>>needs something to make you feel "special", so you went out and found something.
>
> "veganism" is not a thought-out position. It's a choice people make
> *SELF-CONSCIOUSLY* to try to create a persona.

For me it's not a choice. I cannot go against my principles any more than you can,
Usual Suspect.



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