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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in message
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> Steve O wrote:
>> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > sanity's IittIe helper wrote:
>> >> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
>> >> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Actually, Disciple "Doubting" Thomas was an atheist up until the very
>> > last moment of seeing the risen LORD Jesus Christ.
>> >

>> You really don't know very much about your own bible, do you?

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> The Holy Bible is HIS Word and not mine.


Whatever.
Either way, you still don't know much about it.
Aren't you supposed to read it or something?


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>> Thomas, according to your book of fables, never doubted the existence of
>> God, or Jesus.

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> It is clear indicated that Thomas believed only what he saw.


He was (allegedly) a follower, a disciple of Jesus, he never doubted the
existence of God.
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>> What he did doubt was that his christ had risen from the dead.

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> Thomas doubted what he did not see.
>
> It is written that when told about the risen Christ Jesus, he replied
> that he would not believe it until he had placed his hand into HIS side
> and finger through the holes of HIS hands.


Yea, verily so it is written.

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>> This does not make him an atheist.

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> Thomas stopped being an atheist when he declared:


When did he start?
An atheist is someone who lacks a belief in a God or gods.
At which point did Thomas not believe in God?

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> "My LORD and my GOD!" upon seeing the risen Christ Jesus.


Look, you don't seem to get it do you?
You have the same lack of understanding of the bible as any theist.
(atheists understand it perfectly well - you are the guys who are in dispute
with each other over its meaning)
Thomas was a good jew - he followed jewish tradition and he believed in the
jewish God.
He desided to follow Jesus, and was told that Jesus was the Son of God and
would rise after his death.
Following the crucifixion - he refused to believe that Christ had risen from
the dead until he saw him with his own eyes.
This did not detract from his faith in God - it detracted from his faith in
Jesus.

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> Indeed, Jesus affirmed that it was the seeing that led to Thomas
> believing by HIS saying, "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet
> believe."


Yeah, sure.

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>>
>> >> It's your problem, go away and deal with it.
>> >
>> > The LORD continues to guide me in everything I say, do, and write.

>>
>> In that case your lord has a problem in understanding the simplest
>> concepts
>> of the bible.

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> My LORD is the living Word of GOD.


Words aren't alive.
Even if they were, the words in yiour bible have been dead for nearly 2000
years.

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> You will be in my prayers, dear Steve whom I love, in Jesus' most
> precious and holy name.


Would you mind if I told you to **** off with your prayers?

>
> May GOD continue to draw you closer to HIM.


Would you mind if I told God to **** off too?

>
> Will be available to "glow" and chat about this and other things like
> cardiology, diabetes, Bird Flu, cooking and nutrition that interest
> those following this thread here during the next on-line chat
> (03/16/06) from 6 to 7 pm EST:


This "glow" thing worries me a little.