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Default The collateral deaths argument and the 'Perfect Solution Fallacy": a false dilemma.


"Derek" > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:40:09 GMT, "rick" > wrote:
>>"Derek" > wrote in message
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>>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 17:03:12 GMT, "rick" >
>>> wrote:
>>>>"Derek" > wrote in message
m...
>>>>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:29:29 GMT, "rick" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>"Derek" > wrote in message
>>>>>>news:6alaq1h4sevdvrpp186tsg79vs0s0kkism@4ax. com...
>>>>>>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 11:32:52 GMT, "Dutch" >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>"Derek" > wrote
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Perfect Solution Fallacy.
>>>>>>>>> The perfect solution fallacy is a logical fallacy that
>>>>>>>>> occurs when an argument assumes that a perfect
>>>>>>>>> solution exists and/or that a solution should be
>>>>>>>>> rejected because some part of the problem would
>>>>>>>>> still exist after it was implemented. Presumably,
>>>>>>>>> assuming no solution is perfect then no solution
>>>>>>>>> would last very long politically once it had been
>>>>>>>>> implemented. Still, many people (notably utopians)
>>>>>>>>> seem to find the idea of a perfect solution compelling,
>>>>>>>>> perhaps because it is easy to imagine.
>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_solution_fallacy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Read it and find that you've been wasting your time
>>>>>>>>> on the collateral deaths issue for years, I'm glad to
>>>>>>>>> say.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Har har
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's no getting away from it; the collateral deaths
>>>>>>> argument against veganism is a fallacy.
>>>>>>==========================
>>>>>>ROTFLMAO What a hoot!
>>>>>
>>>>> Get used to it, Etter, however hard it must be for someone
>>>>> like you to accept. You have no choice but to accept the
>>>>> fact that the collateral deaths argument is specious in
>>>>> that
>>>>> it poses a false dilemma.
>>>>===========================
>>>>LOL The problem for you is that you cannot accept the fact
>>>>that you kill animals for nothing more than your convenience
>>>>and
>>>>entertainment. There is no meaning to your veganism,
>>>>killer.
>>>
>>> Once again you have fallen for the perfect solution fallacy
>>> by rejecting *my* veganism on the basis that, despite *my*
>>> implementation of veganism as a solution to animal deaths,
>>> animal deaths still occur in a World where animal deaths
>>> cannot be avoided in food production generally. In short,
>>> you're posing a false dilemma as described above. Thanks
>>> for lending yourself so willingly in such a clear
>>> demonstration.

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>>No

<dishonest snipping by twits the loser noted and restored below>
>
> Yes, you stupid imbecile, you've tried posing exactly the
> same false dilemma that you always do, and I reject it on
> the basis that it invokes a fallacy. You lose, you dirty little
> liar.

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No fool, once again you have demonstarted you complete
willingness to kill animals for your conveninece and
entertainment.
As a bonus you have proven your complete stupidity. Keep up the
good work, killer.