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Derek
 
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Default The collateral deaths argument and the 'Perfect Solution Fallacy": a false dilemma.

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 17:03:12 GMT, "rick" > wrote:
>"Derek" > wrote in message ...
>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:29:29 GMT, "rick" > wrote:
>>>"Derek" > wrote in message ...
>>>> On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 11:32:52 GMT, "Dutch" > wrote:
>>>>>"Derek" > wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Perfect Solution Fallacy.
>>>>>> The perfect solution fallacy is a logical fallacy that occurs
>>>>>> when an argument assumes that a perfect solution exists
>>>>>> and/or that a solution should be rejected because some part
>>>>>> of the problem would still exist after it was implemented.
>>>>>> Presumably, assuming no solution is perfect then no solution
>>>>>> would last very long politically once it had been implemented.
>>>>>> Still, many people (notably utopians) seem to find the idea of
>>>>>> a perfect solution compelling, perhaps because it is easy to
>>>>>> imagine.
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_solution_fallacy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Read it and find that you've been wasting your time on the
>>>>>> collateral deaths issue for years, I'm glad to say.
>>>>>
>>>>>Har har
>>>>
>>>> There's no getting away from it; the collateral deaths
>>>> argument against veganism is a fallacy.
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>>>ROTFLMAO What a hoot!

>>
>> Get used to it, Etter, however hard it must be for someone like
>> you to accept. You have no choice but to accept the fact that
>> the collateral deaths argument is specious in that it poses a
>> false dilemma.

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>LOL The problem for you is that you cannot accept the fact that
>you kill animals for nothing more than your convenience and
>entertainment. There is no meaning to your veganism, killer.


Once again you have fallen for the perfect solution fallacy
by rejecting *my* veganism on the basis that, despite *my*
implementation of veganism as a solution to animal deaths,
animal deaths still occur in a World where animal deaths
cannot be avoided in food production generally. In short,
you're posing a false dilemma as described above. Thanks
for lending yourself so willingly in such a clear demonstration.