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Doug Jones
 
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Default The collateral deaths argument and the 'Perfect Solution Fallacy": a false dilemma.

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:31:44 +0000, Derek >
wrote:

>On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 11:32:52 GMT, "Dutch" > wrote:
>>"Derek" > wrote
>>>
>>> The Perfect Solution Fallacy.
>>> The perfect solution fallacy is a logical fallacy that occurs
>>> when an argument assumes that a perfect solution exists

>>
>>Veganism
>>
>>> and/or that a solution should be rejected because some part
>>> of the problem would still exist after it was implemented.
>>> Presumably, assuming no solution is perfect then no solution
>>> would last very long politically once it had been implemented.
>>> Still, many people (notably utopians)

>>
>>ie vegans
>>
>>> seem to find the idea of
>>> a perfect solution compelling, perhaps because it is easy to
>>> imagine.
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_solution_fallacy
>>>
>>> Read it and find that you've been wasting your time on the
>>> collateral deaths issue for years, I'm glad to say.

>>
>>Har har

>
>There's no getting away from it; the collateral deaths argument
>against veganism is a fallacy.


Actually, it isn't.

However, every argument, except for one, *for* veganism is fallacious.
It is not healthier than other diets, it is not more environmentally
friendly, it does not cause fewer deaths, and it not more efficient.

Each of those arguments falls apart in the face of real data, of which
the collateral deaths argument is one.

The *only* argument for it is "I prefer it." That's the only valid
one. Everything else is garbage.

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