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Joe
 
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Default It's been fun

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 17:54:08 GMT, usual suspect >
wrote:

>Joe wrote:
>>>He's also been paying taxes and/or insurance premiums his adult life; if
>>>not, someone else has been. Stop the bullshit that it's "free"

>>
>> True enough it's not free. But it certainly feels that way when one is
>> in such a case like his.

>
>It doesn't matter how it "feels" -- it isn't free.


I'll put it another way. The burden of having to possibly pay a hefty
fee for a completed medical procedure does not loom over you.
>
>>>care is overrated, creates waiting lists (many Canadians still come to
>>>the US for care) and rationing of services, etc.

>>
>> Not too many really.

>
> On Jan. 18, 2003, the Canadian Press carried the headline, “Send
> cancer patients to U.S., Alberta MDs urge.” The story begins,
> “Breast-cancer patients whose wait to see a specialist has
> jumped up to eight weeks from less than four should be sent out
> of province for treatment, the president of the Alberta Medical
> Association says....”
>
> [i]t isn’t against the law for Canadians to cross the U.S.
> border and pay for care they can’t get in Canada. In fact, the
> U.S. has become the safety valve for a foreign health care
> system that would implode economically and politically without
> access to U.S. doctors, hospitals and drugs.
>
> On Jan. 16, 2000, the New York Times titled a story, “Full
> Hospitals Make Canadians Wait and Look South.” The article
> concludes: “As a result, Canada has moved informally to a
> two-tier, public-private system. Although private practice is
> limited to dentists and veterinarians, 90 percent of Canadians
> live within 100 miles of the United States, and many people are
> crossing the border for private care.”
> http://www.usanext.org/full_story.cf...&category_id=5
>
>See also:
>http://www.pacificresearch.org/press...3-10-17sp.html
>

That link is quite true in its facts. My friend was indeed in a
critical [unbeknonwnst to him] situation, so due to that fact
immediate consideration was given. However, surgeries tend to indeed
crawl along here unfortunately. Private medical insurance is an option
up here to offset such dilemnas.

>> Only the wealthy can pursue that course.

>
>I concede it takes means to be able to pay medical bills, but I also
>doubt that desperation for urgent care takes a back seat to wealth.
>
>> The rest of us can't afford it -

>
>I doubt you'd wait for "free care" if you're too concerned to wait to
>see a specialist or have a procedure which is back-logged.


Yes I agree. In actuality though for those [in Canada] who definately
cannot afford such essential procedures you'll find many a time public
donation drives will take place to pay for such costs involved.
>
>> we're paying in part for the 'free' health
>> care

>
>Not in part, in *whole*. You're also getting less and less for it as
>costs rise, as doctors flee for more profitable environs, etc. Were it
>not for the administrative costs (i.e., trying to cover everyone's ass
>from trial lawyers) associated with US health care, we would have a less
>expensive system with better benefits than Canada has.


A presumption on my part, but I think the lawyers up here may be
horribly worse regarding stretching out cases of all kinds with delays
and postponements. You may find of interest in looking at Ontario's
[Canada] 'No fault' car insurance system, enacted to a number of years
ago to offset the snail pace court proceedings at the time.

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