"Glorfindel" > wrote in message
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>
> Yes, it is. If it were not for consumers of factory-farmed
> meat,
> there would be no factory-farmed meat.
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Hey, what a coincidence, killer. If consumers of factory-farmed
veggies didn't buy them there'd be no demand for them, and
millions upon millions of animals that YOU kill would still be
alive.

You cannot use the
> argument only one way. You claim vegans should regard
> themselves
> as responsible for the deaths involved in production of the
> products
> they use.
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No foo, *vegans* make that claim for themselves. It's a claim
they fail miserably at even trying to live up to. Why is that,
hypocrite?



If so, than consumers of mass-market animal products are
> equally responsible for the abominable conditions animals face
> there.
> The onus is on meat-eaters to demand humane conditions.
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Why then is there no onus upon vegans to demand humane treatment
of animals in veggie production? Oh, yeah, that'd be too
inconvenient for you, right, killer? As long as YOU continue to
reward farmers to produce clean, cheap, convenient veggies for
your selfishness, then it is YOU that has the problem of living
up to some ignorant claims made by vegans.
And, if you are really so concerned about the unnecessary death
and suffering of animals, why are you posting your inane
stupidity here on usenet, fool? Guess you just LIKE killing
animals for fun, huh?


>
>>>> It's on those who oppose people consuming meat
>
> Usually because of those very abominable conditions.
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Really? Sounds like your propaganda spew, again, hypocrite...
Not all meat comes from these so-called factories. All of your
veggies do though, hypocrite.



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