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Default Life per se does not have a positive value


<dh@.> wrote
> On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:06:26 GMT, Leif Erikson > wrote:


>>You can feel good about a "decent" life as opposed to a
>>painful life. You may not legitimately feel good about
>>the animal living versus never living, which is what's
>>always lurking behind your nonsense about "decent
>>life".

>
> That's all there is. An animal that would be born as a grass raised
> steer isn't going to be born as a different kind of animal if it's not
> born
> as a grass raised steer, for example. So you're not contributing to
> a "decent" life over a less decent one for any animals. You're only
> contributing to what they get, which is why I encourage people to
> consider what they get. Why you oppose it is still a huge question.
> Why do you oppose people thinking about it the way it is?


Have ever even eaten grass-fed beef? I didn't think so...

You're a fraud.