<dh@.> wrote
> The best you could do is contribute to future animals,
> which is something you would hate to do.

"Future animals" do NOT pose any kind of moral issue *unless and until* you
agree that they will be bred into existence, then their welfare is a moral
issue. Vegans' stance that they should never be born is NOT a source of
criticism of veganism any more than it would be a source of moral criticism
of a farmer who decides for economic reasons to have a smaller herd of
cattle. It's high time you get off that kick David, it's an absurd argument.