usual suspect wrote:
> Beach Rambler wrote:
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>>>>> What will the AR and "ethical vegan" whiners do when this is
>>>>> perfected? Have to learn logic and science?
>>>>> http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=4579
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>>>> It's an emotional reaction, but it disgusts me.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why?
After what you wrote, none of your ****ing business.
>
>
> WHY DOES IT DISGUST YOU?
>
It reminds me of
>>>> Does someone having moral beliefs make them a whiner?
>>>
>>>
>>> You don't have any moral beliefs.
**** you.
>>
>>
>> You're wrong
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>
> Ipse dixit.
You love that phrase. Do you jerk off to it?
Your veganism/animal rights beliefs aren't moral. Veganism
> is a pseudoethical system which pretends to be a "solution" which
> reduces or eliminates a specific "problem." The fact, though, is that
> veganism in nearly every instance exacerbates the problem it seeks to
> solve. Veganism is predicated on the logical fallacy of denying the
> antecedent: "if I don't eat meat (or consume dairy or wear fur, etc.),
> animals don't suffer." Animals DO suffer and die to produce non-meat
> foods through standard agricultural practices including the use of
> machinery, irrigation, pesticides, etc. In short, veganism objects to
> the death of just one animal which others eat while turning a blind eye
> to the thousands of dead animals which die to produce a vegan's diet.
>
YOu have no ****ing memory. Nothing is perfect. I have said I use
organic produce whenever possible.
>>>> Maybe it will put the meat manufacturing industry out of business
>>>
>>>
>>> WTF do you think is the ultimate goal of those trying to make meat in
>>> labs, dipshit? To *manufacture meat*.
>>>
>>>> and reduce the suffering of meat factories.
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>>
>> I agree "that" would be good.
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>
> Why are you agreeing with what you wrote, dumb ass?
>
That aspect would be good, even if I chose not to eat it.
>> I also would not chose to eat such things.
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> Choose. Why not? You already eat foods which are very much similar to
> those either for yourself or for your shack-up girlfriend's granddaughter.
>
>> I don't want to be a guinea pig
>
>
> You may as well be, Bob. After all, you claim to have been a vegan for
> over 30 years and that you're over 50 years-old. That means you've been
> orthorexic nearly your entire adult life for some very dubious reasons.
> What are the results of your three decades of orthorexia? You have a
> WOMAN'S DISEASE -- osteoporosis -- and you have to take B12 shots. You
> are NOT the poster child for veganism's benefits and you really
> shouldn't hold yourself up as one.
>
As you don't recall, perhaps you should be checked for Alzheimer's, my
brother who is a scientist and eats a "scientifically conceived" diet
has much worse osteoporosis than me. He eats a well rounded diet, as
you would call it, avoid saturated fats, and empty calories. But he
eats a variety of low fat meat and fish. I won't identify him, but he
is published in several fields.
In his early research days they managed to kill pigs on a diet mostly of
cream and butter. It sure got his attention.
I take B12 shots as a preventive measure. I specifically asked for
them, they were not proscribed. I am in the safe range, but would
prefer to be higher.
And I'm in a normal range.
You have a sickness
Bob
>> What about Pig Gestation boxes, where pigs are kept in boxes.
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> They're NOT boxes, they're stalls. Stop being a sycophant for
> anti-farming activists. You're probably operating off disinformation
> from the 2002 initiative to ban them in Florida.
>
> The activists also suggested that passage of the amendment would
> protect citizens from the influx of corporate hog farming. The
> state of Florida lacks the infrastructure to support large hog
> operations, he points out.
>
> The new amendment will have little or no impact on hog farming,
> declares Hall. The only two producers in the state using
> gestation stalls are planning to phase out their operations, he
> adds. The amendment goes into effect in 2008....
>
> Kathy Chinn, chairman of the National Pork Board’s Animal
> Welfare Committee, says it is too bad so many of Florida’s
> voters lacked the benefit of scientific information or
> understanding of animal care practices.
>
> "They don’t understand that our livelihood depends on the
> welfare of our animals, and individually housing sows greatly
> enhances their welfare," she states. "Sows are protected from
> the aggressive nature of their neighbors."
> http://nationalhogfarmer.com/news/fa...aws_gestation/
>
>> Pigs are smarter than dogs
>
>
> They're certainly smarter than you.
>
>>> There are no "meat factories." They're called farms. These scientists
>>> will change that: reduced farms for real meat, factories for this
>>> product which you shouldn't find objectionable on AR grounds since it
>>> doesn't "harm" a "sentient being."
>>
>>
>> Tell that to chickens
>
>
> Chickens don't understand any human language, you moron.