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Beach Rambler wrote:
>>>> What will the AR and "ethical vegan" whiners do when this is
>>>> perfected? Have to learn logic and science?
>>>> http://www.medindia.net/news/view_news_main.asp?x=4579
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>>>
>>>
>>> It's an emotional reaction, but it disgusts me.

>>
>> Why?


WHY DOES IT DISGUST YOU?

>>> Does someone having moral beliefs make them a whiner?

>>
>> You don't have any moral beliefs.

>
> You're wrong


Ipse dixit. Your veganism/animal rights beliefs aren't moral. Veganism
is a pseudoethical system which pretends to be a "solution" which
reduces or eliminates a specific "problem." The fact, though, is that
veganism in nearly every instance exacerbates the problem it seeks to
solve. Veganism is predicated on the logical fallacy of denying the
antecedent: "if I don't eat meat (or consume dairy or wear fur, etc.),
animals don't suffer." Animals DO suffer and die to produce non-meat
foods through standard agricultural practices including the use of
machinery, irrigation, pesticides, etc. In short, veganism objects to
the death of just one animal which others eat while turning a blind eye
to the thousands of dead animals which die to produce a vegan's diet.

>>> Maybe it will put the meat manufacturing industry out of business

>>
>> WTF do you think is the ultimate goal of those trying to make meat in
>> labs, dipshit? To *manufacture meat*.
>>
>>> and reduce the suffering of meat factories.

>
> I agree "that" would be good.


Why are you agreeing with what you wrote, dumb ass?

> I also would not chose to eat such things.


Choose. Why not? You already eat foods which are very much similar to
those either for yourself or for your shack-up girlfriend's granddaughter.

> I don't want to be a guinea pig


You may as well be, Bob. After all, you claim to have been a vegan for
over 30 years and that you're over 50 years-old. That means you've been
orthorexic nearly your entire adult life for some very dubious reasons.
What are the results of your three decades of orthorexia? You have a
WOMAN'S DISEASE -- osteoporosis -- and you have to take B12 shots. You
are NOT the poster child for veganism's benefits and you really
shouldn't hold yourself up as one.

> What about Pig Gestation
> boxes, where pigs are kept in boxes.


They're NOT boxes, they're stalls. Stop being a sycophant for
anti-farming activists. You're probably operating off disinformation
from the 2002 initiative to ban them in Florida.

The activists also suggested that passage of the amendment would
protect citizens from the influx of corporate hog farming. The
state of Florida lacks the infrastructure to support large hog
operations, he points out.

The new amendment will have little or no impact on hog farming,
declares Hall. The only two producers in the state using
gestation stalls are planning to phase out their operations, he
adds. The amendment goes into effect in 2008....

Kathy Chinn, chairman of the National Pork Board’s Animal
Welfare Committee, says it is too bad so many of Florida’s
voters lacked the benefit of scientific information or
understanding of animal care practices.

"They don’t understand that our livelihood depends on the
welfare of our animals, and individually housing sows greatly
enhances their welfare," she states. "Sows are protected from
the aggressive nature of their neighbors."
http://nationalhogfarmer.com/news/fa...aws_gestation/

> Pigs are smarter than dogs


They're certainly smarter than you.

>> There are no "meat factories." They're called farms. These scientists
>> will change that: reduced farms for real meat, factories for this
>> product which you shouldn't find objectionable on AR grounds since it
>> doesn't "harm" a "sentient being."

>
> Tell that to chickens


Chickens don't understand any human language, you moron.