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> Beach Runner wrote:

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>> I generally pay the difference for organic produce.
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He'll ignore this information the way he ignored the lys he made
about water useage per pound of beef.
It doesn't fit within his brainwashing, so to him it must not
exist.


>
> You're the reason the organic industry is taking off. The
> organic industry feeds off naive, gullible dolts like you.
>
> [O]rganic pesticides have very real drawbacks. Most of them are
> broad spectrum, meaning they kill beneficial insects (just like
> those dangerous synthetic chemicals). They are not as
> thoroughly
> tested as synthetics. Batch strength can vary. And, perhaps
> most
> dangerous of all, they are perceived by the gardening public as
> safe. Nothing could be farther from the truth.
> http://www.headlice.org/news/2005/pesticidemyth.htm
>
>
> Even if a product is considered to be organic, it is still a
> pesticide. It is important to be careful when using any
> pesticide, even organic or natural pesticides. Just because a
> product is thought to be organic, or natural, does not mean
> that
> it is not toxic. Some organic pesticides are as toxic, or even
> more toxic, than many synthetic chemical pesticides. Organic
> pesticides have specific modes of action, just as do synthetic
> pesticides.
> http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2756.htm
>
>
> As new organic labeling laws take effect this week, the USDA
> has
> pointed out that it "makes no claim that organically produced
> food is safer or more nutritious than conventionally produced
> food." However, this has not stopped organic marketers from
> making such claims.
> http://www.cgfi.org/materials/articl.../oct_22_02.htm
>
>
> The claim that organic food slows global warming is rendered
> even more foolish by the fact that all those extra cattle
> [required for manure to fertilize organic crops] would
> emit lots of methane, a greenhouse gas that's 20 times as
> potent
> as CO2. More cattle to produce manure for organic farming would
> not only mean cutting all our trees, but additional clouds of
> methane trapping heat in the atmosphere. Ms. Hammond even warns
> us about methane from cattle when she tells us not to eat meat.
>
> Great. A billion extra cattle will eat our vegetation down to
> dust, and we won't even eat the meat.
> http://www.cgfi.org/materials/articl.../dec_31_04.htm
>
>
> The latest research from the University of Minnesota renews
> concerns that organic produce has higher bacterial risks than
> conventional fruits and vegetables. The Minnesota researchers
> found significantly more E. coli and more Salmonella bacteria
> on
> organic produce than conventional.
>
> But the researchers themselves say, "Don't worry." They say
> that
> finding more E. coli bacteria on organic foods fertilized with
> manure doesn't mean the organic stuff is more dangerous.
> Instead, it merely "supports the idea that organic produce is
> more susceptible to fecal contamination."
> http://www.cgfi.org/materials/articl.../may_26_04.htm
>
>
> "It doesn't matter what's true, it only matters what consumers
> believe." Sadly, these are the words of Horizon Organic Dairy
> CEO Chuck Marcy commenting this year to dairy marketing
> professionals on consumer misperceptions regarding non-existent
> health and safety benefits of milk marketed as organic.
> http://www.cgfi.org/materials/articl...june_18_03.htm
>
> See also:
> http://www.cgfi.org/materials/articl...3/feb_6_03.htm
> Etc.
>
>> Yes, I care about animals losing habitat
>
> No, you don't. You moved from an urban area in or near NYC to
> the Tampa area. The Tampa-St Pete area's growth rate has caused
> extensive loss of habitat, and the effects of that area's
> growth are felt along the rest of the Gulf Coast.
>
>> and collateral damage.
>
> Liar.