Scented Nectar wrote:

> "usual suspect" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
>>Skanky wrote:
>>
>>>>>I respect those that are.
>>>>
>>>>I don't. Their diets and customs are their own business. I'm not Jewish,
>>>>nor am I under their laws -- not the ones about food, not the ones about
>>>>stoning children for insubordination, not the ones about stoning
>>>>homosexuals, not any of them.
>>>
>>>Whoa, where did you hear that
>>>one? Jews stoning children and
>>>gays???
>>
>>I've read it in the Bible.
>
>
> The bible is what Christians follow.
> It's a book full of a lot of violence,
> both by man and his god. The
> Jewish torah is the same but just
> leaves out some parts, the parts
> about Jesus being a messiah.
> So if you're going to blame Jews
> of old for abominations, blame
> the Christians of old too. They
> were one and the same. Above
> you refer to stoning as if it is
> happening in present day
> Judaism, whereas it is only
> happening modernly in Muslim
> countries, usually to women
> who have been victims of rape.
>
>
>>If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey
>>the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that,
>>when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then
>>shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him
>>out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
>>And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is
>>stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a
>>glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone
>>him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from
>>among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
>>Deuteronomy 21:19-22
>
>
> What a full-of-love book.
>
>
>>And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely
>>put to death. And he that curseth his father, or his mother,
>>shall surely be put to death.
>>Exodus 21:15, 17
>
>
> What a gentle and kind god.
>
>
>>If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them
>>have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to
>>death. Their blood shall be upon them.
>>Leviticus 20:13
>
>
> No violent intentions by a fascist
> god there, eh? Man sure knows
> how to make them up.
>
>
>>And fwiw, Dreck, who's claimed before to be "part" Jewish, would have to
>>deal with his wife and brother in similar fashion:
>>
>>'The man who commits adultery with another man's wife, he who
>>commits adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and the
>>adulteress, shall surely be put to death.
>>Leviticus 20:10
>
>
> Do you actually believe in this
> stuff?
>
>
>>The dietary laws come from these same texts in Deuteronomy and Leviticus
>>which prescribe stoning and hanging for various transgressions. If the
>>rigid laws about human relationships are no longer operative, why do
>>some Jews believe other rigid laws about diet are? THAT, stupid, was my
>>point. As I've also noted (and you snipped):
>>Reform Judaism and Reconstructionist Judaism hold that these
>>laws are no longer binding. Most Jews in Reform Judaism have
>>considered these laws a hindrance, rather than a facilitator, of
>>piety; this is still the mainstream Reform position. Some parts
>>of the Reform community have begun to move towards a more
>>traditional position. This tradition-leaning faction agrees with
>>mainstream Reform that the rules concerning kashrut are no
>>longer binding, but holds that keeping kosher is an important
>>way for people to bring holiness into their lives. Thus Jews are
>>encouraged to consider adopting some or all of the rules of
>>kashrut on a voluntary basis. The Reconstructionist movement
>>advocates that its members accept some of the rules of kashrut,
>>but does so in a non-binding fashion; their stance on kashrut is
>>the same as the tradition-leaning wing of Reform. The different
>>movements' positions on kashrut are reflective of their broader
>>perspectives on Jewish law as a whole.
>>http://www.answers.com/topic/kashrut
>>
>>
>>>I know some very
>>>orthodox Jews and they do NOT
>>>do the above.
>>
>>Then maybe they're not Orthodox enough. Why do they pick and choose
>>which rules to follow and obsess over?
>
>
> Why do the ones who have talked
> you into turning on their lights (work)
> during their sabbath not stone
> people to death? Are they not
> picking and choosing? And since
> it's a part of both the bible and
> the torah, why aren't you accusing
> Christians of stoning?
>
>
>>>Where are you
>>>getting your info from, the KKK?
>>
>>No, the Bible.
>
>
> Nice book, that.
>
>
>>>Usual, you're even more of a
>>>prejudiced
>>
>>There was nothing prejudiced in what I wrote, you loathsome bitch.
>
>
> Loathsome bitch? I guess if I
> were your mother or father, I would
> have to stone you to death for
> cursing at me.
>
>
To summarize Torah, "Don't do what is hateful to others what is hateful
to others. All the rest is commentary." All the rest is commentary. by
the Great Rabbi Hillel.