usual suspect wrote:

> Beach Runner wrote:
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>> Beach Runner wrote:
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>>> usual suspect wrote:
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>>>> Numbnuts wrote:
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>>>>>>> All responsible vegans have their B12levels monitored.
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>>>>>> Ipse dixit. They OUGHT to, but ought doesn't imply that they DO.
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>>>>>>> And still the problem is very rare.
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>>>>>> Much less rare among vegans than among the general population.
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>>>>>> By lowering homocysteine levels, B12 also reduces the risk of
>>>>>> heart disease, stroke, and other diseases. Vegans and
>>>>>> near-vegans who do not supplement with vitamin B12 have
>>>>>> consistently shown elevated homocysteine levels....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The overwhelming consensus in the mainstream nutrition
>>>>>> community, as well as among vegan health professionals, is that
>>>>>> plant foods do not provide vitamin B12. Despite this, some vegan
>>>>>> advocates still believe that "plant foods provide all the
>>>>>> nutrients necessary for optimal health" and, therefore, do not
>>>>>> address vitamin B12 when promoting the vegan diet. Other vegan
>>>>>> advocates acknowledge the need for B12, but only as an
>>>>>> afterthought.
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>>>>>> The result is that many vegans do not eat B12 fortified foods or
>>>>>> supplements. Many have developed overt B12 deficiency. In some
>>>>>> cases, the symptoms have cleared up after taking B12
>>>>>> supplements, but not everyone has been so lucky.
>>>>>> http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/intro
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>>>>>> Stop pushing your quackery on others, Boob.
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>>>>> You fool,
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>>>> You complete ass.
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>>> How kind. Does't address the issue.
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>>>>> it's a tiny problem compared with cancer and coronary artery
>>>>> disease, improved with a vegan diet.
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>>> That FACT remains.
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>>>> Ipse dixit. Vegans die, too, you know. They die of heart disease and
>>>> cancer like everyone else.
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>>> Yes, but far far more people die of cancer and heart desease. Let
>>> other's be the judge.
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>> Notice even when I agree, vegans should get B12 checked, US insults me.
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> You didn't say they SHOULD get their B12 checked, you said they DO.
> That's NOT the same, dummy. Here's what you wrote:
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> All responsible vegans have their B12levels monitored.
I said all RESPONSIBLE vegans, not all VEGANS.


Can you read the world Responsible and under the difference between ALL?
Apparently not.


You will not drive me from the group. Your insults are stupid. I don't
insult you. Why do you feel the need to insult people? Is it insecurity?

Every RESPONSIBLE vegan authority says to check B12 levels. In fact,
according to Harvard, everyone should get their B12 levels checked.

Much more common is heart disease and cancer and much more common is a
typical American diet which over consumes meat and under consumes leafy
vegetables and fruit.


Few Americans check their B12 levels but Harvard says everyone should.
Not just Vegans or vegetarians.



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