Claire's fat crippled Uncle Dog-beater wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:41:40 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
> >Claire's fat crippled Uncle Dog-beater wrote:
> >> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:59:27 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
> >>>Claire's fat crippled Uncle Dog-beater wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:29:09 -0800, "Dutch" >
wrote:
> >>>>>Claire's fat crippled Uncle Dog-beater wrote:
> >>>>>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:32:28 -0800, "Dutch" >
wrote:
> >>>>>>>Claire's fat crippled Uncle Dog-beater wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm responsible for what I ask for: the death of crops to
> >>>>>>>> eat. You are responsible for what you ask for: the death
> >>>>>>>> of animals to eat.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>If I ask for the death of animals *and* I am aware that
> >>>>>>>abuse of animals takes place, I become complicit in the
> >>>>>>>deaths *and* the abuse, even though I did not ask for
> >>>>>>>the abuse.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That doesn't make sense. You start off by asking
> >>>>>> for the death and abuse of animals, and finish by
> >>>>>> stating you didn't ask for any abuse.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Where are you seeing that? I *never* asked for the abuse,
> >>>>>and didn't say I did.
> >>>>
> >>>> When you wrote, "If I ask for the death of animals *and*
> >>>> I am aware that abuse of animals takes place..." you are
> >>>> in deed asking for abuse to take place.
> >>>
> >>>I don't get your reasoning. I am NOT asking for abuse,
> >>
> >> Again, when writing, "If I ask for the death of animals *and*
> >> I am aware that abuse of animals takes place..." you are
> >> in deed asking for abuse to take place.
> >
> >By that reasoning if you ask for vegetables when you are aware that
cds take
> >place that means you are asking for cds to take place.
>
> That sentence presupposes collateral deaths are associated
> with every item I might buy

No, it isn't. It only presupposes that CDs are associated with SOME
items you buy every time you shop, and that IS the case.
> [snip bad, ****witted example]