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"Ron" > wrote in message
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> In article >,
> Derek > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:51:02 -0500, Ron > wrote:
>>
>> >In article >,
>> > Derek > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:27:59 GMT, Rudy Canoza > wrote:
>> >> >Scented Nectar wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Then forced complicity
>> >> >
>> >> >There is no such thing.
>> >>
>> >> Forced complicity exists, and if I were to threaten
>> >> you and your family with death by starvation, you'd
>> >> be forced to comply with the truth of this sentence.
>> >
>> >We disagree, Derek. The choice to comply is still a choice.

>>
>> Then, if I were to bend your arm up your back in
>> a half Nelson, you would have the choice not to
>> comply and stand with your arm up your back? A
>> person can be forced to comply with brute force
>> and coercion if applied firmly enough.

>
> Logical fallacy of a false dilemma.
>
> I have the choice of fighting back. I have the choice of avoiding the
> situation.


You are missing the point.. complicity implies willingness. Cooperating
under extreme duress does not form complicity.

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