On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:41:57 GMT, "misanthrope" > wrote:

> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:53:58 GMT, "misanthrope"
> wrote:
>>
>> >animal rights is an issue in which i have no interest, and i therefore
>feel
>> >i'm unqualified to pronounce upon it.
>>
>> That doesn't mean human influence on animals should not be
>> discussed in a philosophy group. It may well be that none of you
>> care about it, but that doesn't mean it's not appropriate. And it is
>> certainly more appropriate than whining and crying because other
>> people are discussing it like your buddy Jones.
>
>that would be valid point in the case of valid topics, but it's not valid
>for posts that contain nothing more than back-biting garbage.

· From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised
steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people
get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well
over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people
get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm
machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and
draining of fields, one meal of soy or rice based product is
likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of meals
derived from grass raised cattle. Grass raised animal products
contribute to less wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and
better lives for livestock than soy or rice products. ·