On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:12:17 GMT, Rudy Canoza > wrote:

> We are talking, and have ALWAYS been
>talking, about an existential requirement for any
>benefit to exist in anyone's mind.

The only requirement for a benefit to exist is a benefactor.
A beneficiary doesn't need to exist before a benefit does.

>No matter what the benefit or what the entity, the entity
>must ALREADY exist

False. Benefits exits prior to existing beneficiaries. All
that's required for a benefit to exist is a benefactor.
You need to think this one through again, Jon.