On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:19:00 -0500, Ron > wrote:

>In article t>,
> the Gonad wrote:
>
>> formerly known as 'cat arranger' wrote:
>> > I believe that existence is a benefit.
>>
>> No, it isn't. A benefit is something that makes an
>> entity better off; that is, something that improves the
>> welfare of an entity.
>
>What is a "benefit" is also subjective.

The Gonad has not been--and apparently never will
be--able to provide an example of a definition backing
up his claim. If he could have he would have done it
by now, and would have done it repeatedly.

>> Prior to existing, the entity DIDN'T HAVE a welfare
>> that could be improved. Thus, initial existence did
>> not improve the entity's welfare, and initial existence
>> therefore CANNOT be a benefit.