> > Why would you compare the worst of the produce to the
> > 'best' of the meats?
>
> Why not? It is a choice consumers face.

No it's not

> >> > If grown with no cds, it will always be the best of all the
foods.
> >>
> >> Agreed, but that is not the question I am asking.
> >
> > Then we agree. What are you asking exactly?
>
> Simply put, is it ALWAYS better to try to reduce animal deaths, or is
only
> better when it is done via the vegan formula, eliminating animal
products?

I personally think it's best to reduce what deaths
you reasonably can, and to do it while following
the 'formula' of eliminating animal products. The
intentional death involved in meat makes eating
meat a very repusive choice. Even if a fringe
meat has a total of less deaths than a 'worst of
the produce' food, the intentional death is very
in your face (pun intended) when you eat meat.
The act of eating dead body parts is too
repulsive to do. Some people become vegetarian
for no other reason in fact. It's not always about
animal rights. There's health and other reasons
people go vegetarian. Going vegan reduces
animal deaths a great deal so it's a good choice
if ones goal is that.

> > Exactly which foods are you comparing and
> > why?
>
> The foods are commercially grown and manufactured rice, beans,
vegetables
> and fruit compared to beef grown in a local community, pastured and
not
> finished with grain.

I don't want to compare the best of meats to the
worst of veggies. I wouldn't want to compare the
best of veggies to the worst of meats either. Both
are apples and oranges.

> The reason I am doing it is that I am using your refusal to make the
> comparison as an illustration of vegetarian narrow-mindedness, or
> alternately, you could view it as an opportunity to prove me wrong
about
> that by acknowledging that my proposition is a plausible one. By doing
so
> you also release yourself from the fantasy that the vegan drive to
eliminate
> animal products from one's diet is a foolproof way to reduce animal
deaths.

Who ever claimed it's foolproof? In overall averages it's better, but
not
foolproof.