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John Coleman
 
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"Digger" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:13:13 +0100, "pearl" > wrote:
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> >"Digger" > wrote in message

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> >> On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 22:57:03 -0400, "magnulus" >

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> >> >"Digger" > wrote in message

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> >> >>
> >> >> "It applies to the practice of living on the products of the
> >> >> plant kingdom to the exclusion of flesh, fish, fowl, eggs,
> >> >> honey, animal milk and its derivatives, and encourages
> >> >> the use of alternatives for all commodities derived wholly
> >> >> or in part from animals."
> >> >> http://www.vegsource.com/jo/essays/namegame.htm
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > That's actually a good definition (if quite wordy- try explaining

that to
> >> >anybody when they ask you what a vegan is), but if you just changed

"animal
> >> >milk" to "nonhuman animal milk", it would be flawless.
> >>
> >> I'm afraid not, because making human milk an exception
> >> to the rule leaves the way clear for any man to regard
> >> himself as a vegan while nourishing himself on it. Vegan
> >> mothers must start being content with the hard fact that
> >> their suckling babe is neither a vegetarian or a vegan.
> >>
> >> There's nothing ugly or wrong in feeding a child naturally
> >> with mothers milk and having a non-vegan in the family,
> >> and those who want to assume there is and go so far as
> >> to pretend that the milk they give it is a vegetarian food
> >> are wrong and simply deluding themselves.

> >
> >Doesn't 'vegetarian' in the UK, simply mean those who
> >abstain from meat, as in 'lacto-ovo-vegetarians', (whilst in
> >the US, 'vegetarian' means what we call 'vegan')?

>
> I'm not sure. The term 'vegetarian' has become so lose
> now that one could nourish themselves almost entirely
> on animal products these days and still qualify as one.
>
> The ideal would be that vegetarians feed exclusively
> on vegetation while vegans do the same and abstain
> from animal derived products such as leather etc.
>
> >Maybe
> >we should just call nursing babies, of any species, 'lactarians'?

>
> I was hoping you'd come up with the correct definition.
> I haven't a clue what to call them, apart from non-
> vegetarians and non-vegans, but that seems to upset
> a lot of people.


Veganism is about lessening cruelty and exploitation, breast feeding has
nothing to do with either of these.

You are deluded with your definition of veganism.

John