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"Digger" > wrote in message ...
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 22:44:29 GMT, "John Coleman" > wrote:
>
> >"Digger" > wrote in message ...
> >> On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:53:07 GMT, "John Coleman" > wrote:
> >> >"Digger" > wrote in message ...
> >> >> On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 00:10:50 -0400, "magnulus" >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Isn't a human an animal,
> >> >>
> >> >> We are mammals by virtue of the female of our species
> >> >> having mammary glands. (thank you, Lord)
> >> >>
> >> >> >so wouldn't human breast milk be an "animal
> >> >> >byproduct"?
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, and therefore a non-vegan source of food.
> >> >
> >> >incorrect - you need to start with a valid definition of
> >> >veganism, then work from there
> >>
> >> Milk is an animal product and thereby non-vegan by default.

> >
> >incorrect

>
> Then you must allow all diary users to announce themselves
> as vegan.
>
> >- please start with the right defiition
> >
> >as stated befo
> >"Today, the Society remains as determined as ever to promote vegan
> >lifestyles - that is, ways of living that seek to exclude, as far as is
> >possible and practical, all forms of exploitation of animals for food,
> >clothing or any other purpose. "
> >http://www.vegansociety.com/html/about_us/

>
> And where, in any of that does it conclude milk to be
> a vegan source of nourishment?


Human breast milk doesn't involve exploitation of animals.

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> They avoid animal products for other reasons apart from
> its exploitative component. "It applies to the practice
> of living on the products of the plant kingdom to the
> exclusion of flesh, fish, fowl, eggs, honey, animal milk and
> its derivatives, and encourages the use of alternatives for
> all commodities derived wholly or in part from animals."
> http://www.vegsource.com/jo/essays/namegame.htm


'Animal milk' here, would not include human breast milk.

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