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Rudy Canoza[_8_]

On 2/2/2006 6:42 PM, wrote:
>
> Leif Erikson wrote:
>> homo pantywaist fudgepacker ronnie hamilton shrieked:
>>
>>> Leif Erikson wrote:
>>>> Dave wrote:
>>>>> rick wrote:
>>>>>> "Dave" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ups.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> rick wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Dave" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>> ups.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> rick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Dave" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> rick wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dave" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> snippage...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you do not buy grain fed, chemically laced meat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the same impact upon the industries that produce
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vegans do.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ======================
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your logic is failing. I have an impact on the
>>>>>>>>>>>> industry.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> buy
>>>>>>>>>>>> a product that directly competes with what loons rant
>>>>>>>>>>>> about.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Someone who stops eating beef will have to eat something
>>>>>>>>>>> else or go hungry. All food products are in competition
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> each other to some degree.
>>>>>>>>>> ==========================
>>>>>>>>>> Someone who does not eat meat and never will has no impact
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> meat industry they spew about.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is the point. They have no impact on the industry. They
>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> provide the motive for treating animals that way unlike
>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>> consume the cheapest meats available.
>>>>>>>> ============================
>>>>>>>> Yet they do nothing to change the industry the spew about.
>>>>>>>> Having an impact for change means you have to participate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reduction is a type of change.
>>>>>> ===========================
>>>>>> You're missing the point.
>>>>>
>>>>> No it's you who are missing the point.
>>>>
>>>> Rick is correct: YOU are the one missing the point
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No. ricky is an idiot.
>>
>> No, Rick has this exactly right.
>>
>>
>>>>>> Since vegans do not and will not buy
>>>>>> meat they aren't reducing their use of meat. Since they do
>>>>>> participate, they have no impact.
>>>>>
>>>>> Their use of meat is less than it would be if they weren't vegan.
>>>>> By continuing to be vegan they are removing their contribution
>>>>> towards the commercial incentive to produce meat of any kind.
>>>>
>>>> No. You are wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>> No. No he's not.
>>
>> Yes, he is. "vegans" are not having any impact beyond their initial
>> refusal to eat meat, and that wasn't much impact at all.
>
> Surely it's about the same amount of impact as Rick makes by buying
> grass-fed beef.

No.