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Default Why Be Vegetarian - by Dr. Stephen Knapp

On 12/26/2014 3:03 AM, [email protected]. wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 07:33:26 -0800, wrote:
>> On 12/17/2014 10:53 PM, [email protected]. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 07:53:50 -0800,
wrote:
>>> .
>>>> On 12/8/2014 6:30 AM, [email protected]. wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 16:21:01 -0800,
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/28/2014 10:59 AM, Derek wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 01:15:26 GMT,
and/or
>>>>>>>
www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Many portions of the Vedic literature describe how the
>>>>>>>> Supreme Being is the maintainer of innumerable living
>>>>>>>> entities, humans as well as the animals, and is alive in
>>>>>>>> the heart of every living being. Only those with
>>>>>>>> spiritual consciousness can see the same Supreme Being in
>>>>>>>> His expansion as Supersoul within every creature. To be
>>>>>>>> kind and spiritual toward humans and be a killer or enemy
>>>>>>>> toward animals is not a balanced philosophy, and exhibits
>>>>>>>> one's spiritual ignorance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The next reason for being vegetarian is to consider the
>>>>>>>> amount of fear and suffering that animals experience in
>>>>>>>> the slaughter industry. There are countless stories of
>>>>>>>> how in fear cows cry, scream, and sometimes fall down
>>>>>>>> dead while inside or even before they are taken into the
>>>>>>>> slaughter house. Or how the veins of dead pigs are so big
>>>>>>>> that it shows they have practically exploded from the
>>>>>>>> fear the pig felt and the adrenalin that was produced
>>>>>>>> while it was being led to slaughter. This certainly
>>>>>>>> causes an immense amount of violence to permeate the
>>>>>>>> atmosphere, which goes out and falls back on us in some
>>>>>>>> form. Furthermore, the adrenalin and fear in the animal
>>>>>>>> also produces toxins which then permeate the body of
>>>>>>>> these animals, which meat-eaters ingest. People who
>>>>>>>> consume such things cannot help but be effected by it. It
>>>>>>>> causes tensions within them individually, which then
>>>>>>>> spreads in their relations with others.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The ancient Vedic text of the Manu-samhita (5.45-8) says,
>>>>>>>> "He who injures innoxious beings from a wish to give
>>>>>>>> himself pleasure never finds happiness, neither living
>>>>>>>> nor dead. He who does not seek to cause the suffering of
>>>>>>>> bonds and death to living creatures, but desires the good
>>>>>>>> of all beings, obtains endless bliss. . . Meat can never
>>>>>>>> be obtained without injury to living creatures, and
>>>>>>>> injury to sentient beings is detrimental to the
>>>>>>>> attainment of heavenly bliss; let him therefore shun the
>>>>>>>> use of meat."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, well, maybe you ought to learn just how cruel your religion
>>>>>>> really.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://dailym.ai/1tyw9tZ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sweet mother of ****. Those pictures are shocking beyond words.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The last time the festival was held, in 2009, more than 250,000
>>>>> animals were
>>>>> killed, according to animal rights organisation PETA"
>>>>
>>>> The source is irrelevant; all that counts is if it's accurate.
>>>>
>>>> Those senselessly slaughtered animals did not "benefit" by "getting to
>>>> experience life." That's settled.
>>>
>>> You, Derek and Ru

>>
>> No one by the name "Ru".
>>
>>> have no way of knowing what percentage of them did and
>>> what percentage of them did not

>>
>> We do know: 0% "benefited" from "getting to experience life. "Getting
>> to experience life" is not a benefit - by definition.

>
> Try to explain how any of you could possibly have found out


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