On 10/22/2013 08:16 PM, Todd wrote:
> On 10/22/2013 07:44 PM, W. Baker wrote:
>> In alt.support.diabetes Todd > wrote:
>> : On 10/22/2013 04:42 PM, Maya Zuiderweg wrote:
>> : > Na rijp beraad schreef Julie Bove :
>> : >> "Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$ >
>> : >> wrote in message
>> ...
>> : >>> Todd heeft ons zojuist aangekondigd :
>> : >>>> On 10/21/2013 05:05 PM, wrote:
>> : >>>>> On 10/20/2013 1:11 PM, I Don't Know wrote:
>> : >>>>>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 11:42:33 -0400, Susan
>> > wrote:
>> : >>>>>>
>> : >>>>>>> x-no-arhive: yes
>> : >>>>>>>
>> : >>>>>>> On 10/19/2013 11:49 PM, I Don't Know wrote:
>> : >>>>>>>> Your advice could kill some people you moron.
>> : >>>>>>>
>> : >>>>>>> Not really.
>> : >>>>>>>
>> : >>>>>>> Susan
>> : >>>>>>
>> : >>>>>>
>> : >>>>>> He advised not to take one's prescribed meds.
>> : >>>>>>
>> : >>>>>
>> : >>>>> That's good advice, because most meds are made by BIG Pharma
>> and as
>> : >>>>> practically *everyone* who is not in Susan's killfile knows, BIG
>> : >>>>> Pharma
>> : >>>>> is PURE EVIL.
>> : >>>>> Just like the ADA and most doctors are PURE EVIL.
>> : >>>>> You *really* ARE new here, aren't you?
>> : >>>>
>> : >>>> Actually, I never advised anyone not to take their meds.
>> : >>>> And I shared that I any finally back off them and am
>> : >>>> very happy about it. I did say you should not to use drugs
>> : >>>> so you can cheat on your carb count.
>> : >>>
>> : >>> What idiot would do that?
>> : >>> M.
>> : >>
>> : >> They wouldn't because meds don't work that way. Not most of them
>> : >> anyway. Prandin and Starlix do let some people eat more carbs but
>> : >> Starlix didn't work for me. Something like Metformin isn't a
>> "cheat"
>> : >> type med or even a fast acting one.
>> : >
>> : > As I read this, it's about covering up for more food-intake with
>> extra
>> : > insulin.
>> : > M.
>>
>> : Hi Maya,
>>
>> : Do you ever post recipes over on alt.food.diabetic?
>> : It is a good place to learn how to cook diabetic.
>>
>> : He gave me instructions about how to take extra insulin
>> : so you could eat a piece of cake and what whatever else
>> : he wanted.
>>
>> : Too much insulin messed you up pretty good too, even if
>> : you are offsetting with vast quantities of carbs, which
>> : also mess you up in other way besides T2.
>>
>> : The guy has almost killed himself once. I do not
>> : see a happy ending to this. And he is a really
>> : decent man that other love, need, and rely on.
>>
>> : An article on insulin:
>>
>> :
>> https://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2013...olution_01.htm
>>
>> : Too much insulin, the fat storage hormone, also drives
>> : more inflammation and oxidative stress, and produces a
>> : myriad of downstream effects including high blood pressure,
>> : high cholesterol, low HDL, high triglycerides, poor sex
>> : drive, infertility, thickening of the blood, and increased
>> : risk of cancer, Alzheimer?s, and depression.
>>
>> : Probably why T1 shouldn't over do the insulin too.
>>
>> : -T
>>
>> No one in this group or on the food group advocates using extra
>> insulin or
>> meds to cover up eating extra carbs. first of all it makes the
>> underlying
>> situation worse as it puts weight on a person which means fewer carbs,
>> etc
>> to be able to control ones diabetes and bgs. Second, we are not here to
>> find "tricks" to work around controlingour diabtes by using exta meds or
>> any other such things. If we believe dthat WE WOULD NoyT BE SEEKING WHAT
>> WE ARE HERE, a successful method of conrtoling our diabetes withotu doing
>> injury to ourselves and we let others know our methods. We don't really
>> think that there is only oneway to live with diabetes, but WE DO NOT
>> ADVOCATE USE OF DRugs or isulinn TO ALLOW OURSELVES TO "CHEAT"..Some may
>> eat more carbs, bu exercise more to keep inbalance adn some may , like
>> you, eat very low carb or medium carb , etc. We use what works for us
>> and
>> what we can do reletively happily. Please, don't think that this group
>> advocates or admires diabetic cheaters who only really fool themselves.
>> They wuld not lst on this group.
>>
>> Wendy
>
> Wendy, please forgive me. I never meant to imply anyone of this group
> would do something so ferociously irresponsible. That I know
> of others not on this group that do, horrifies me. That was all I
> was getting at. I though I as talking to like minded T2's that
> would share my horror as well. I obviously did not succeed very
> well at it.
>
> -T

Hi Wendy,
Can you point me to which sentence(s) gave you the
impression I was implying those on the group were
doing suchlike? It would help me improve my writing.

-T