"W. Baker" > wrote in message
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> In alt.support.diabetes Todd > wrote:
> : On 10/22/2013 04:42 PM, Maya Zuiderweg wrote:
> : > Na rijp beraad schreef Julie Bove :
> : >> "Maya Zuiderweg" <$no_spam#ma_dot_zuiderweg_@_me_dot_com#maps_on$ >
> : >> wrote in message
> ...
> : >>> Todd heeft ons zojuist aangekondigd :
> : >>>> On 10/21/2013 05:05 PM, wrote:
> : >>>>> On 10/20/2013 1:11 PM, I Don't Know wrote:
> : >>>>>> On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 11:42:33 -0400, Susan >
> wrote:
> : >>>>>>
> : >>>>>>> x-no-arhive: yes
> : >>>>>>>
> : >>>>>>> On 10/19/2013 11:49 PM, I Don't Know wrote:
> : >>>>>>>> Your advice could kill some people you moron.
> : >>>>>>>
> : >>>>>>> Not really.
> : >>>>>>>
> : >>>>>>> Susan
> : >>>>>>
> : >>>>>>
> : >>>>>> He advised not to take one's prescribed meds.
> : >>>>>>
> : >>>>>
> : >>>>> That's good advice, because most meds are made by BIG Pharma and
> as
> : >>>>> practically *everyone* who is not in Susan's killfile knows, BIG
> : >>>>> Pharma
> : >>>>> is PURE EVIL.
> : >>>>> Just like the ADA and most doctors are PURE EVIL.
> : >>>>> You *really* ARE new here, aren't you?
> : >>>>
> : >>>> Actually, I never advised anyone not to take their meds.
> : >>>> And I shared that I any finally back off them and am
> : >>>> very happy about it. I did say you should not to use drugs
> : >>>> so you can cheat on your carb count.
> : >>>
> : >>> What idiot would do that?
> : >>> M.
> : >>
> : >> They wouldn't because meds don't work that way. Not most of them
> : >> anyway. Prandin and Starlix do let some people eat more carbs but
> : >> Starlix didn't work for me. Something like Metformin isn't a "cheat"
> : >> type med or even a fast acting one.
> : >
> : > As I read this, it's about covering up for more food-intake with extra
> : > insulin.
> : > M.
>
> : Hi Maya,
>
> : Do you ever post recipes over on alt.food.diabetic?
> : It is a good place to learn how to cook diabetic.
>
> : He gave me instructions about how to take extra insulin
> : so you could eat a piece of cake and what whatever else
> : he wanted.
>
> : Too much insulin messed you up pretty good too, even if
> : you are offsetting with vast quantities of carbs, which
> : also mess you up in other way besides T2.
>
> : The guy has almost killed himself once. I do not
> : see a happy ending to this. And he is a really
> : decent man that other love, need, and rely on.
>
> : An article on insulin:
>
> :
> https://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2013...olution_01.htm
> : Too much insulin, the fat storage hormone, also drives
> : more inflammation and oxidative stress, and produces a
> : myriad of downstream effects including high blood pressure,
> : high cholesterol, low HDL, high triglycerides, poor sex
> : drive, infertility, thickening of the blood, and increased
> : risk of cancer, Alzheimer?s, and depression.
>
> : Probably why T1 shouldn't over do the insulin too.
>
> : -T
>
> No one in this group or on the food group advocates using extra insulin or
> meds to cover up eating extra carbs. first of all it makes the underlying
> situation worse as it puts weight on a person which means fewer carbs, etc
> to be able to control ones diabetes and bgs. Second, we are not here to
> find "tricks" to work around controlingour diabtes by using exta meds or
> any other such things. If we believe dthat WE WOULD NoyT BE SEEKING WHAT
> WE ARE HERE, a successful method of conrtoling our diabetes withotu doing
> injury to ourselves and we let others know our methods. We don't really
> think that there is only oneway to live with diabetes, but WE DO NOT
> ADVOCATE USE OF DRugs or isulinn TO ALLOW OURSELVES TO "CHEAT"..Some may
> eat more carbs, bu exercise more to keep inbalance adn some may , like
> you, eat very low carb or medium carb , etc. We use what works for us and
> what we can do reletively happily. Please, don't think that this group
> advocates or admires diabetic cheaters who only really fool themselves.
> They wuld not lst on this group.

Yes! Not only is he giving information about what could be the wrong way to
use insulin, but he is outright insulting those of us who do have to use it!